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What does Kringle know that Nicodemus doesn't?
g33k:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on August 12, 2019, 06:05:21 AM ---... He probably was pretty certain about Mab, Hades and Marcone's game on Nicodemus. He "knew" pretty much what was about to happen to him.
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I'm guessing that Vadderung was in it with Mab/Hades/Marcone. If I was putting down bets, I'd bet on Vadderung as the originator of the op against Nic.
Consider:
* Monoc is Marcone's chief interface into the Spooky Side. Mr.V was certainly involved in setting up that vault, with all the supernatural depositors! In effect, Mr.V engineered the backdoor into Hades' vault.
* Kringle is a Winter Mantle, ultimately belonging to that Court... And to Mab. Mr.V is the clear Mab/Marcone go-between (because honestly - neither would trust the OTHER go-between: Harry Dresden!).
* Odin is one of those big-time Old God's. He even died for his knowledge. The chance that Death-god Hades and Died-god Odin are unacquainted is nil.
Vadderung is the common thread of all the KNOWN conspirators.
Going even further... I am betting that Gard came to Chi-town in part to establish a link to Dresden, so Vadderung could get some direct insight into the Starborn, and direct input on how he'd take action.
I mean, the whole "Fuck Nic" plan in SG is based on them having an agent inside Nic's op. Dresden. And who gives Dresden the info be needs? Mr.V.
The whole plan was Vadderung's.
forumghost:
What does Kringle know that Nick doesn't? That's easy.
~he knows if you've been bad or good so be good for goodness sake~
Yuillegan:
Forumghost, I think Harry would like you. Well done lol :D
As for you g33k. I agree that Vadderung is both nexus and key conspirator...but I do think the plan was more Mab's than his. If only because she has a bigger axe to grind. But she is just as calculating, and a lot colder.
Con:
Some good points. I still think there's something Kringle/Vadderung knows that could be crucial against Nicodemus and Anduriel. Although I guess there is the fact that Kringle knew that Harry had hired Goodman Grey while Nicodemus thought he had his contract. That would be the crucial knowledge needed to defeat Nicodemus.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: g33k on August 14, 2019, 02:34:57 AM ---The chance that Death-god Hades and Died-god Odin are unacquainted is nil.
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Both Hades and Odin are gods having care of the dead. As we say in Changes, Odin has armories in case of apocalypse and prisons. Hades' vault was an armory for apocalypsesque times. Also the place Hades is a prison for the condemned dead.
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