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Who are the four?
g33k:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on August 18, 2019, 12:56:03 AM ---Well, any black court vamp that can make a Renfield should suffice, provided the victim doesn't outright lose memory of their PIN in the psychic sandblaster treatment.
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I don't know that we know if things like PINs would survive (or not) in such a broken mind. Don't think we've seen canon, or heard WOJ, either way.
I'm disinclined to expect Jim would have that sort of rough work get through advanced security... (Or maybe not, as I think of Harry & Hexus).
The "fine thrall" thing, and other nuanced enthrallments, take time (that I know of) to get someone to utterly betray a loyalty.
morriswalters:
It can't be a human practitioner. Magic would set off the traps. It can't be the Fae since they use glamour and couldn't get past the scan. Black vamps are undead and have no blood flow. A White Court vampire could get the pin and turn the accountant. But planning for that in advance would risk exposing the plan by Lara learning of it, prior to it happening.
Just for fun. If Sandra Marling was herself a scion of a Skinwalker that would solve a problem, and the statement that one of the Mercs is detained, might indicate that someone has locked her away, maybe Mab, after the events of Proven Guilty.
Bad Alias:
It's not going to be "a" fae, vampire, or other large class of being we've seen because, well, there are more than four of them. It could be a specific fae, vampire, etc. that is really good at whatever the method of bypassing the security, but it won't be some random one.
g33k:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 19, 2019, 06:29:31 AM ---It can't be a human practitioner. Magic would set off the traps. It can't be the Fae since they use glamour and couldn't get past the scan. Black vamps are undead and have no blood flow. A White Court vampire could get the pin and turn the accountant. But planning for that in advance would risk exposing the plan by Lara learning of it, prior to it happening.
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Also, the time a Whamp needs to really enthrall somebody isn't trivial. Seduce them into sex, only a few moments. But getting them to walk into the bank and betray someone likely to kill them could take longer. Not only Lara might notice -- I'm sure there's magical checkups on the accountant, too (just because such enthrallments are known!), so you have to grab/enthrall/break-into-vault all in quick succession.
A Blampire could do it by making a Fine Thrall rather than a Renfield -- but again: Fine Thralls take time, and I'd expect if he went missing for that long they'd disable his access.
Even a mortal practitioner could do it, via enthralling magic. They don't need to bring their own magic into the vault if they have enthralled the victim. Again, though, it takes time...
Justin had an entire school-day to work on Elaine (and maybe some time afterwards to reinforce it, while Harry was fleeing (but maybe that time was spent summoning HWWB?)), but when Harry came back to fight Justin, the enthrallment began unraveling directly; she was gone before the fight ended. Justin clearly expected to eventually have two trustworthy thralls, and not to spend hours per day, every day, reinforcing the magic on a daily basis for the rest of his life. Again: these things take time.
I still believe that enthrallment is one potential route for a merc to fulfill this objective. We just haven't seen anyone who can so swiftly and completely enthrall (just like we hadn't seen skinchanger skills like GG before).
But a Blamp or a mortal practitioner who had "next-level skills" with enthrallment could, potentially, fulfill Nic's needs here.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: g33k on August 20, 2019, 06:07:36 PM ---A Blampire could do it by making a Fine Thrall rather than a Renfield -- but again: Fine Thralls take time, and I'd expect if he went missing for that long they'd disable his access.
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--- Quote ---[Speaking of fine thralls] Enthralling someone also requires a lot of time and empathy, neither of which has been readily available to Mavra.
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Chapter 27 of Blood Rites
I'm don't think a Blampire can make a fine thrall.
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