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g33k:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on August 21, 2019, 07:09:06 PM ---Chapter 27 of Blood Rites I'm don't think a Blampire can make a fine thrall.
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I'm pretty sure they can, because "Fine Thrall vs. Renfield" was part of one of Jim Butcher's early infodumps Bob's tutorial's for Harry.

Unable to go to my books for the cite right now, but I'm pretty sure I've remembered correctly.
 

Bad Alias:
The info dump is that Mavra has "rough thralls" and "Renfields." Mavra specifically can't make a fine thrall because she doesn't have the empathy necessary. How does Bob know this? Because Mavra is a Blampire and Blampires are too inhuman to make a fine thrall, imo.

isoycrazy:
I wondered if Loki was one of them, but Odin had him detained.


--- Quote from: Avernite on August 15, 2019, 08:08:20 PM ---Important to note, also, as that these mercenaries all operate on such a level that A) Nic could hire them and B) Nic couldn't hire them away from their current jobs.

That, alone, is pretty badass.

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Not really.  The Supernatural world takes commitments deadly seriously.  If I hire Jack to impersonate Jill for the next month, Jack will do it, and if Nicodemus comes along in that month with a job that would make it impossible to do my job, Jack would have to decline or be an oathbreaker to me.  I would tell everyone from the mountain top Jack's loyalty can be bought with cash and he will betray you for the right price.  His name would be ruined.

If these two were on contract, they would risk their entire reputations on leaving one job early for another.

kbrizzle:
All this talk of mind control has me thinking - the best way to do this would be Corpsetaker-style. He seemed extremely adept at taking over people’s minds, including Molly’s who had become fairly formidable by GS. So any wizard/ sorcerer with strong mental magic capabilities (like Molly) could technically be a candidate. So perhaps 1 of the 4 is a warlock?

@Bad Alias
While it’s true that Blamps likely can’t create fine thralls, I think that Mavra may be the exception to this rule. Her nuanced understanding of human emotions is what has allowed her to be one of the very few bad guys to successfully manipulate Harry to get exactly what she wants & walk away unscathed.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: kbrizzle on August 25, 2019, 02:22:17 AM ---I think that Mavra may be the exception to this rule [Blamps likely can’t create fine thralls].

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Not according to Bob, so until we have textual evidence saying otherwise, I'm going with Bob (who is admittedly fallible).

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