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Who dies in Peace Talks
narphoenix:
--- Quote from: Kindler on July 17, 2019, 07:11:16 PM ---I'd argue that the White Court vamps' effect would be in such strong agreement with the Mantle's core drives that it wouldn't even notice it working. It's all Lizard Brain stuff. Lara broadcasts her sex waves, and the Mantle responds with, "This is a GREAT idea!"
I doubt that the Mantle would have any specific defenses against White Court vamps. No idea how that would even work based on what we know about it, or magic in general. And it doesn't make sense to me that there'd be an If White Court Vampire, Then Shut This Thing Down line in the Mantle's code. It's not like it's got any other specifically-designed defenses that I can think of, just specifically-designed weaknesses (Iron and Winter itself).
Not saying Harry wouldn't (or, more likely, won't) be able to resist, just that he'd wind up fighting two influences rather than one.
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Given that the Winter Queens most of the time can just boss their Knight around, I suspect they may not necessarily care about the White Court. If you're dumb enough to get eaten, well, you're dumb enough to get eaten.
Just Al:
--- Quote ---Part of me thinks that Harry would refuse to be the Blacksraff, he was so mad when he found out what Eb had done as part of his duties, I don't think he'd want any part of it.
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He would also have a conflict of interest. The blackstaff is (most likely) Mother Winter's cane. Harry taking possession of it would (presumably) force him to return it to Mother Winter.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: Kindler on July 17, 2019, 07:11:16 PM ---I'd argue that the White Court vamps' effect would be in such strong agreement with the Mantle's core drives that it wouldn't even notice it working. It's all Lizard Brain stuff. Lara broadcasts her sex waves, and the Mantle responds with, "This is a GREAT idea!"
I doubt that the Mantle would have any specific defenses against White Court vamps. No idea how that would even work based on what we know about it, or magic in general. And it doesn't make sense to me that there'd be an If White Court Vampire, Then Shut This Thing Down line in the Mantle's code. It's not like it's got any other specifically-designed defenses that I can think of, just specifically-designed weaknesses (Iron and Winter itself).
Not saying Harry wouldn't (or, more likely, won't) be able to resist, just that he'd wind up fighting two influences rather than one.
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On the other hand, Winter has a tendency to think sex and violence are interchangeable. That right there could be a powerful Winter Knight check on Wamps, turning a feeding into physical fight. If that's the case, I really don't want to read that.
123Chikadee:
Oh, I was talking more about Eb vs L.Raith being a fight neither would really walk away from. Sorry, guess I should have made that clearer. But a fight between Harry and Lara, yeah ya'll are right that would be much more even. Hm, about his mantle I think Bad Alias could be the closest on it, but Harry did have something similar happen to him against Maeve in Cold Days, so maybe that experience could give him an edge in a fight against Lara.
Oh, this is fun. Maybe we should do who would win and how match-ups, if that isn't already up here somewhere. :)
narphoenix:
Back on topic, I think that I'm gonna have put a bet against Thomas surviving to the end of the book. I love the guy, but he's the closest person to Harry whom Jim can reasonably kill off.
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