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Kindler:
Lara versus Harry would get super complicated when you account for the Mantle's sex drive. Her whole thing is lust, and that's a primary motivator for the WK's Mantle. It wouldn't really be a physical fight so much as Harry desperately clinging to... well, at this point, chastity... while Lara does her best to tempt him.

My God, I'm so excited for Peace Talks that it's keeping me up at night. Well, not really. I have severe chronic insomnia, so I'm usually up anyway. But I'm thinking about Peace Talks while I'm up most nights, so I'm counting it, damn it.

RobReece:
Part of me thinks that Harry would refuse to be the Blacksraff, he was so mad when he found out what Eb had done as part of his duties, I don't think he'd want any part of it.

g33k:

--- Quote from: RobReece on July 17, 2019, 05:27:35 AM ---Part of me thinks that Harry would refuse to be the Blacksraff, he was so mad when he found out what Eb had done as part of his duties, I don't think he'd want any part of it.
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You mean when the WC wants to do something even MORE ethically disgusting than beheading a youth whose own magic corrupted them, because the WC never trained them to use said powers safely?

You're right, of course... Harry wants no part of being the WC's covert wetworks "Blackstaff."

OTOH... If Ebenezer falls in battle -- say, against a Walker, or other Outsider foe -- and the ONLY way to defeat the Outsider is for a Starborn wizard to pick up the extra winter magic of the Blackstaff... Well, then I think Harry does what needs to be done, and to hell with the consequences.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Kindler on July 16, 2019, 04:01:48 PM ---Lara versus Harry would get super complicated when you account for the Mantle's sex drive. Her whole thing is lust, and that's a primary motivator for the WK's Mantle. It wouldn't really be a physical fight so much as Harry desperately clinging to... well, at this point, chastity... while Lara does her best to tempt him. ...

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On the one hand... You are absolutely correct, that's a rather huge issue.

On the other hand, I can't believe the WK/mantle has no good way to handle Whamps.  Whamps are the most-human-seeming vamp, and the Knights are specifically there for doing human-related things for their Court.  Having this major weakness just seems so very improbable...

Just hypothetically, maybe the Winter powers can somehow chill/shutdown the Whamp's demon/phage?

Kindler:
I'd argue that the White Court vamps' effect would be in such strong agreement with the Mantle's core drives that it wouldn't even notice it working. It's all Lizard Brain stuff. Lara broadcasts her sex waves, and the Mantle responds with, "This is a GREAT idea!"

I doubt that the Mantle would have any specific defenses against White Court vamps. No idea how that would even work based on what we know about it, or magic in general. And it doesn't make sense to me that there'd be an If White Court Vampire, Then Shut This Thing Down line in the Mantle's code. It's not like it's got any other specifically-designed defenses that I can think of, just specifically-designed weaknesses (Iron and Winter itself).

Not saying Harry wouldn't (or, more likely, won't) be able to resist, just that he'd wind up fighting two influences rather than one.

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