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Would the Knights have gone after the Denarians in the beginning of SmF if...
nadia.skylark:
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I'm not actually sure if the post you linked to is saying that I'm right or wrong. The first bolded section would appear to indicate that I'm right, but the second would appear to indicate that I'm wrong.
--- Quote ---However Harry knew perfectly well it was a trap, as did Michael and Sanya.. Harry countered with a trap of his own, that is why he was willing to risk a Holy Sword to rescue Ivy....
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Not at the point in the book which I'm discussing.
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on June 28, 2019, 11:38:06 PM ---I'm not actually sure if the post you linked to is saying that I'm right or wrong. The first bolded section would appear to indicate that I'm right, but the second would appear to indicate that I'm wrong.
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This is your quote.
--- Quote ---What I am saying is that, while it makes perfect sense that Michael would refuse Harry's second request, it makes less sense that he would refuse Harry's first request. I believe that the reason that Micheal does so is his concern that Harry might be leading the Knights into a trap.
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The first quote tells you that Michael didn't lie when he told Harry why he wouldn't attack without warning. But that he had thought about the possibility that Harry might lead them into a trap.. The second quote is about who actually picked up on the problem, Molly not Michael.
Mira:
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However Harry knew perfectly well it was a trap, as did Michael and Sanya.. Harry countered with a trap of his own, that is why he was willing to risk a Holy Sword to rescue Ivy....
Not at the point in the book which I'm discussing.
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But it helps with context...
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---The first quote tells you that Michael didn't lie when he told Harry why he wouldn't attack without warning. But that he had thought about the possibility that Harry might lead them into a trap..
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Okay, so to be perfectly clear, since I've misunderstood some of your posts before: I take this quote to mean that Michael didn't lie about why he refused to hunt down the Denarians to kill them (against the rules of his job) but the reason he didn't say "but I will help look for them to rescue Marcone" is because he was concerned about Harry leading them into a trap; and I take your posting of the quote in the context in which you did so to mean that you agree with me.
--- Quote ---The second quote is about who actually picked up on the problem, Molly not Michael.
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I've always been confused about that, because as I understand the order of events, there was no point at which Molly should have gotten suspicious until after Michael refused to go hunting Denarians.
--- Quote ---But it helps with context...
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...I'm not seeing it. It's like saying "Well, in Changes when Harry's apartment was set on fire, why didn't he just use ice magic to put it out? He could do that later in Changes," with the answer being "yeah, but not at that point he couldn't." It doesn't feel like context to me--more like confusing the issue. There was no indication at the point I'm talking about that Nicodemus was setting up a trap by kidnapping Marcone--that came later.
morriswalters:
I presented you with two quotes. And they say precisely what they say. And pretty clearly at that. I don't see any point to interpreting them, again.
In the story Harry is a detective. He finds things. Michael either trips over them on his front sidewalk or gets a nudge form the big guy.
Finding the Denarians is a prerequisite of attacking them without warning. There is one other possibility. Find them and talk first. You seem to think there is another course of action.
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