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morriswalters:

--- Quote ---To me, it feels like common sense. Look at it this way: If Nicodemus was torturing some random dude outside Michael's house, telling him that he would only stop torturing him if he would pick up a coin, do you think Michael would interfere? I think he would. Nicodemus may have made the choice to torture the guy, but A) he's a freaking Denarian; and B) torturing people is bad and Michael is not going to just going to ignore some guy getting tortured.
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Wouldn't you help a guy who was on your front sidewalk, torturing someone, no matter what the reason? 

I wasn't talking about Nic's choices.  I was talking about Marcone's.  He's where he's at in the book because of a choice he made.  Two choices actually.  He chose to save Harry in the alley behind Bock's Books.  And he chose to be a free holding Lord.  The first drew the animus of Titania, the second made him fair game in the supernatural world.

Mira:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on June 27, 2019, 05:50:29 PM ---Wouldn't you help a guy who was on your front sidewalk, torturing someone, no matter what the reason? 

I wasn't talking about Nic's choices.  I was talking about Marcone's.  He's where he's at in the book because of a choice he made.  Two choices actually.  He chose to save Harry in the alley behind Bock's Books.  And he chose to be a free holding Lord.  The first drew the animus of Titania, the second made him fair game in the supernatural world.

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He reasons for saving Harry did not come not from the goodness of his heart either..  He wanted an in to the supernatural world and a body guard...  The man is a crime lord, lots of people suffer because he is who he is...  Being rescued by Holy Knights hasn't changed that.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Kindler on June 27, 2019, 02:41:08 PM ---... Though I should point out that Michael was crippled for life as a result of going to the Island, so maybe the paper-thin excuse that Dresden manipulated wasn't good enough.
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No, I think that was actually the very best thing (for Michael) that could have happened.

His injuries, in the final analysis, free him from being a Knight. They let him be home with his family, let him build houses (for which he evidently has a passion).  Yeah... cane.  So what?
 Occasional twinges of pain?  Not like the Knighting lifestyle is exactly pain-free (usually more than "twinges").

He'd pick up the sword again in a heartbeat, if that's what he'd be called to; but he's he's not:  he's being given the reward of the life & family he always wanted.
 

Mira:

--- Quote from: g33k on June 27, 2019, 09:01:59 PM ---No, I think that was actually the very best thing (for Michael) that could have happened.

His injuries, in the final analysis, free him from being a Knight. They let him be home with his family, let him build houses (for which he evidently has a passion).  Yeah... cane.  So what?
 Occasional twinges of pain?  Not like the Knighting lifestyle is exactly pain-free (usually more than "twinges").

He'd pick up the sword again in a heartbeat, if that's what he'd be called to; but he's he's not:  he's being given the reward of the life & family he always wanted.

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I believe Jim said that was Michael's happy ending..

g33k:

--- Quote from: Mira on June 27, 2019, 09:39:55 PM ---I believe Jim said that was Michael's happy ending.
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Exactly.
He IS going to Heaven (possibly via Uriel's afterlife-spooksquad), but for now, he's got a slice of Heaven on Earth.

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