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A Question About Naagloshii
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on June 11, 2019, 10:10:57 PM ---Seduction comes in several sorts... there's the "fling" sort of thing, the one-night-stand, the lost weekend, the week-on-vacation-and-never-seen-again, etc. That isn't really "in love," and the "big reveal" might be horrifying, disgusting, etc... Inducing someone to fall deeply in love? I agree that the sadism is far greater; but I doubt that a Naagloshi would care enough about any mortal, be patient enough, to invest all that time... they despise humans too much to invest that much into any of them!
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Depends on what it's motives were.... What it did to Thomas for example, it didn't just beat him up to hold him to trap Harry... No, it sadistically did it over and over again to the point of death, so Thomas would have to feed until death over and over again, young innocent girls.. I call that sadistic... So yeah, depending on what it's orders were it is very capable of appearing as a handsome young man or worse yet murdering the husband or lover of the woman, taking his shape, get her pregnant, stick around as the loving lover or husband until she gives birth, then reveal the horror that it is...
isoycrazy:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 12, 2019, 11:22:38 AM ---Depends on what it's motives were.... What it did to Thomas for example, it didn't just beat him up to hold him to trap Harry... No, it sadistically did it over and over again to the point of death, so Thomas would have to feed until death over and over again, young innocent girls.. I call that sadistic... So yeah, depending on what it's orders were it is very capable of appearing as a handsome young man or worse yet murdering the husband or lover of the woman, taking his shape, get her pregnant, stick around as the loving lover or human until she gives birth, then reveal the horror that it is...
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Very true. Even if the woman wasn't a nun, the woman could be a very religious person and holder in strong beliefs. Though, to go darker, the skinwalker might not even have killed the man, yet. The man's torture, if he loved his wife, would be to be forced to watch from some portal or crystal his wife having dinner with the skinwalker, and then the sex and then the rape. If the family was ignorant to the supernatural, the skinwalker might not even reveal his ruse to the wife, leaving her to think her husband did this to her.
Mira:
--- Quote from: isoycrazy on June 12, 2019, 11:35:17 AM ---Very true. Even if the woman wasn't a nun, the woman could be a very religious person and holder in strong beliefs. Though, to go darker, the skinwalker might not even have killed the man, yet. The man's torture, if he loved his wife, would be to be forced to watch from some portal or crystal his wife having dinner with the skinwalker, and then the sex and then the rape. If the family was ignorant to the supernatural, the skinwalker might not even reveal his ruse to the wife, leaving her to think her husband did this to her.
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Yeah, it doesn't take a lot of imagination from what we know of the skinwalker to think it not capable of that. It also goes a long way to explain Goodman Grey's bitter attitude about a lot of things... What comes to mind is he was a big reason why the mission to the vault ended in success yet, because of who his father was he cannot cross the threshold into Michael's yard.. Another thought just hit me, it could be the reason why his mother named him, "Goodman." It's sending a message that genetics aside he is still basically a good person willing to fight the good fight.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 12, 2019, 11:22:38 AM ---Depends on what it's motives were....
depending on what it's orders were ...
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If it were under orders/compulsion, then sure; it could have done whatever it needed to. Then I move over to wondering who/what gave the orders, and why, and whether THAT is going to become part of the ongoing DF plotline(s)?
But if it weren't compelled... I return to thinking that any extended seduction would have been more time and effort than it would have found worth expending for ANY mortal. I think a "simple" seduction, lost-weekend style, or overt rape, would be all the time & effort a naagloshi would be willing to expend on any mortal.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 12, 2019, 06:11:00 PM --- ... because of who his father was he cannot cross the threshold into Michael's yard...
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I had understood that to be that Goodman had been previously bad, that he was reforming, but that he didn't think he would be accepted within the property by the guardians.
Not that there was a "threshold" to the yard, that he "couldn't" cross, just the property-line of the area the angels would defend, and he WOULD not choose to provoke them.
I think he is trying to earn his way into Heaven, but doesn't think he's close enough yet to risk crossing that line.
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