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A Question About Naagloshii
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on June 12, 2019, 08:52:17 PM ---If it were under orders/compulsion, then sure; it could have done whatever it needed to. Then I move over to wondering who/what gave the orders, and why, and whether THAT is going to become part of the ongoing DF plotline(s)?
But if it weren't compelled... I return to thinking that any extended seduction would have been more time and effort than it would have found worth expending for ANY mortal. I think a "simple" seduction, lost-weekend style, or overt rape, would be all the time & effort a naagloshi would be willing to expend on any mortal.
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Except Mr Grey seemed to know his father, or at least what it was.. I think you are underestimating the amount of sadistic pleasure gained by the naagloshi... It does have it's sadistic pleasures, that is why it spent so much time on poor Thomas... The time and effort are worth it...
exartiem:
First, rape is not just an act of violence. It is a violation of free will.
Secondly, from what Jim has shown us, the skinwalker is not the type to commit to a long term plot. I don't think it would pretend to be a loving, caring mate for nine months just for one pay-off at the end. It seems more likely to commit one act that would continue to torture the woman, making her fear what was growing inside her.
After giving birth she could do many different things (kill the baby, abandon it, etc...), but while still pregnant her options would be fewer.
Unless the creature's plan was to create an offspring.
Mira:
--- Quote from: exartiem on June 14, 2019, 12:54:19 AM ---First, rape is not just an act of violence. It is a violation of free will.
Secondly, from what Jim has shown us, the skinwalker is not the type to commit to a long term plot. I don't think it would pretend to be a loving, caring mate for nine months just for one pay-off at the end. It seems more likely to commit one act that would continue to torture the woman, making her fear what was growing inside her.
After giving birth she could do many different things (kill the baby, abandon it, etc...), but while still pregnant her options would be fewer.
Unless the creature's plan was to create an offspring.
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That could indeed have been it's plan... Agreed that rape is a violation of free will, however posing as a lover or husband is also a form of rape.. As to long term plots, getting back at Morgan for killing one of them was a long term, plot.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 14, 2019, 04:03:34 AM --- ... getting back at Morgan for killing one of them was a long term, plot.
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waitWHAT?
Did I forget or overlook something? Where did we see a long-term Naagloshi plot to get revenge upon Morgan?
g33k:
--- Quote from: exartiem on June 14, 2019, 12:54:19 AM ---... Secondly, from what Jim has shown us, the skinwalker is not the type to commit to a long term plot. I don't think it would pretend to be a loving, caring mate for nine months just for one pay-off at the end...
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This is my feeling too.
But as was pointed out to me, they ARE capable of the deception, and a powerful-enough entity could MAKE them do it.
And they would undoubtedly do a very good job at it, and engineer the matter for maximum (eventual) torment to their victim.
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