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Motivation for fixing Little Chicago?
Kindler:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on May 13, 2019, 07:11:08 PM ---Accept my apologies if you aren't talking to me or if this post isn't responsive to yours.
Because the text says so. I quote the passage below. The trope you quote doesn't cover this case. Harry isn't changing someone else's future. The takeaway from the quoted exchange is that Harry would have died, which is what fuses do. For future Harry to know of that event he needs to survive it. The span of time from first use to Bob revealing the flaw is a discontinuity. Someone from the past could tell him in the future as long as their knowledge preexisted that period of time.
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My point is that the text we are reading takes place on the altered timeline. It's a time loop. Harry goes back in time in a later book to find out that the only reason he survived Proven Guilty is because of Future Harry's interference in events, which he then does to make sure the timeline remains stable.
I'm no great fan of time travel as the Great Problem Solver, but there are plenty of examples of this kind of time travel.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---My point is that the text we are reading takes place on the altered timeline. It's a time loop. Harry goes back in time in a later book to find out that the only reason he survived Proven Guilty is because of Future Harry's interference in events, which he then does to make sure the timeline remains stable.
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And what about the original timeline? The first Future!Harry had to come from somewhere, after all.
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: Kindler on May 14, 2019, 03:20:16 PM ---Harry goes back in time in a later book to find out that the only reason he survived Proven Guilty is because of Future Harry's interference in events, which he then does to make sure the timeline remains stable.
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Which makes him future Harry. However I'm going to forgo the headache I'll get if I think about this too much. ;)
kbrizzle:
@nadia
This is a really good question & it is one of the things that has bothered me about PG for a while. I have theories about everything else that seem to make sense, but this one bit has remained unsolved.
@morriswalters & nadia
I completely agree that TT Harry fixing PG in the past would simply cause an alternate timeline to be formed - one where TT Harry shows up & saves the day, or one where Harry goes ahead & uses LC (blowing up & all).
My big issue with Mab being the one to fix LC (even though the reasons presented make sense) is that she was an ice sculpture in Arctis Tor during this time/ was dealing with both her daughter & Lea being Nfected. I don’t know where she would find the time to sneak into Harry’s place, figure out there is something wrong with LC & fix it without even Bob knowing.
Honestly if she didn’t hate Harry so much, the best fit would be Titania (more likely Mother Summer). Since Lilly’s little fae regularly clean Harry’s apt., they would know that he is building something complex & magical. I would not be surprised if they tell someone in Summer about everything they see in Harry’s apt. Lilly is not smart enough to fix LC, but Mother Summer (or her agent) are.
The motive here would be that Mother Summer is aware that Maeve & Lea are Nfected & that Arctis Tor has been attacked, putting Mab in a weak & defensive position. Mab needs the help of someone who is definitely against the Outsiders/ can act in the mortal world unencumbered - if the best chance of that happening is protecting the guy who saved the Fae Courts in SK, then so be it.
Additionally, Harry is also a tempering influence on Mab (the purpose of Summer) - carrying out Mab’s duties as humanely as possible. In CD she even encourages him to remain his own man, so Mother Summer would see protecting Harry as carrying on Summer’s duties in a creative manner.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---My big issue with Mab being the one to fix LC (even though the reasons presented make sense) is that she was an ice sculpture in Arctis Tor during this time/ was dealing with both her daughter & Lea being Nfected. I don’t know where she would find the time to sneak into Harry’s place, figure out there is something wrong with LC & fix it without even Bob knowing.
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Well, time works differently in the Nevernever.
--- Quote ---Honestly if she didn’t hate Harry so much, the best fit would be Titania (more likely Mother Summer). Since Lilly’s little fae regularly clean Harry’s apt., they would know that he is building something complex & magical. I would not be surprised if they tell someone in Summer about everything they see in Harry’s apt. Lilly is not smart enough to fix LC, but Mother Summer (or her agent) are.
The motive here would be that Mother Summer is aware that Maeve & Lea are Nfected & that Arctis Tor has been attacked, putting Mab in a weak & defensive position. Mab needs the help of someone who is definitely against the Outsiders/ can act in the mortal world unencumbered - if the best chance of that happening is protecting the guy who saved the Fae Courts in SK, then so be it.
Additionally, Harry is also a tempering influence on Mab (the purpose of Summer) - carrying out Mab’s duties as humanely as possible. In CD she even encourages him to remain his own man, so Mother Summer would see protecting Harry as carrying on Summer’s duties in a creative manner.
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Well, maybe someone high up in the Summer Court needed to do something for which Little Chicago would be helpful, so Mother Summer "suggested" that they stop by Harry's place.
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