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Motivation for fixing Little Chicago?
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---Because Bob told Harry about the problem at the end of Proven Guilty.
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No, that doesn't work. Because the original Harry would have been blown up by Little Chicago, so he wouldn't be around to come back and fix it.
We can't assume a stable time loop in the Dresdenverse because Odin has said that it is possible to change the past. If the past is changeable, then the "it's going to happen because it's already happened" logic necessary for a stable time loop falls apart.
morriswalters:
If someone from the future fixes LC it creates a paradox. Always. According to Vadderung this causes a split in the timeline. Whoever goes back can't change their future. They can only create a new future where Harry doesn't kill himself with LC.
It's like a murder investigation. Who has means , motive and opportunity? Since Harry was keeping LC under wraps before first use, who could have known of it existence in the present? That list is small. Maybe Mab and/or the Gatekeeper. It's never explained implicitly, but Mab has some means of seeing what happens in Chicago. She reproduces a past event in Chicago, in full animation, in Small Favor. And the Gatekeeper has showed the ability to find Harry wherever he might be. He does it in Summer Knight and Turncoat. However the ability to be able to do so removes the need to use LC, since she/they seem to already have a more powerful tool that does the same thing.
However, Mab might fix LC to fulfill Lea's obligation to protect Harry, since in Proven Guilty she is restrained and as of Dead Beat Mab is filling in. This WAG depends on the exact nature of Lea's obligation. However we do know that she kept a garden in the Never Never to keep enemies from entering Harry's home past the threshold. This means that Mab had a private doorway into the sub basement. So this a possibility. That is means and motives.
Opportunity. Anyone monitoring Harry would know when he and Bob were both out of the apartment. Again this fills the bill for Mab/Gatekeeper. Bob is not in the basement for most of the events leading up to the raid on Arctis Tor. So the basement was free from surveillance. Anyone with the means to enter, could do so without interference.
Since I don't like time travel I won't discuss it other than to say that anyone in the future possessing Bob, assuming he survived, would have everything they need to fix LC if they could TT.
Kindler:
It works perfectly if Harry Already Changed the Past and we're on an already-changed timeline. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YouAlreadyChangedThePast
I don't know why you think Little Chicago has to blow up for Future Harry to fix it.
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: Kindler on May 13, 2019, 06:23:08 PM ---It works perfectly if Harry Already Changed the Past and we're on an already-changed timeline. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YouAlreadyChangedThePast
I don't know why you think Little Chicago has to blow up for Future Harry to fix it.
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Accept my apologies if you aren't talking to me or if this post isn't responsive to yours.
Because the text says so. I quote the passage below. The trope you quote doesn't cover this case. Harry isn't changing someone else's future. The takeaway from the quoted exchange is that Harry would have died, which is what fuses do. For future Harry to know of that event he needs to survive it. The span of time from first use to Bob revealing the flaw is a discontinuity. Someone from the past could tell him in the future as long as their knowledge preexisted that period of time.
--- Quote ---“Oh,” he said. “I found something wrong with Little Chicago’s design.”
I swallowed. “Oh. Wow. Bad?”
“Extremely. We missed a transition coupling in the power flow. The stored energy was all going to the same spot.”
I frowned. “That’s… like a surge of electricity going through a circuit breaker, right? Or a fuse box.”
“Exactly like that,” Bob said. “Except that you were the fuse. That much energy in one spot will blow your head off your shoulders.”
“But it didn’t,” I said.
“But it didn’t,” Bob agreed.
“How is that possible?”
“It isn’t,” he said. “Someone fixed it.”
“What? Are you sure?”
“It didn’t fix itself,” Bob said. “When I looked at it a few nights ago, the flawed section was in plain sight, even if I didn’t recognize it at the time. When I looked again tonight, it was different. Someone changed it.”
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nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---I don't know why you think Little Chicago has to blow up for Future Harry to fix it.
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Little Chicago doesn't have to blow up in order for Future Harry to fix it. What does have to happen is that Future Harry needs to find out about the problem without dying first, before he can come back to fix it.
This is a problem because if, in Future Harry's timeline, the thing different than in current Harry's timeline that effected Little Chicago was that Little Chicago was not fixed, it would have killed Harry. Therefore, if Future Harry fixed Little Chicago, then he must have either been the one to cause Current Harry to need to use Little Chicago in this timeline (ex by being responsible for Molly's kidnapping or preventing Current Harry from getting other information about her location) or have used something Current Harry didn't consider an option to survive the explosion (ex taking up Lasciel's coin).
Any theories positing that Future Harry fixed Little Chicago, therefore, have to include something to address this.
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