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I think Murphy is going to get killed here is why
magnuskn:
Quite honestly, I don't think Murphy's deep catholicism was mentioned after Harry died. With her crisis of faith in everything she underwent during the time of Ghost Story and, well, Skin Game, obviously, as well as her training with the Einherjar, I wouldn't wonder if Odin has marked her as a candidate.
I mean, if God takes on atheists and Jews as his very christian themed holy knights, I don't doubt Odin can't abuse the "rules" as well. Also, presuming for a moment that Gard doesn't make it through Peace Talks, Marcone would need a new bodyguard from Monoc Securities. ;)
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---Except even at this stage in the game Harry usually defers to Murphy's judgement...
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Sure, but by Proven Guilty (which is what I assume you mean by "at this stage in the game") Murphy is a character whose judgement can be trusted.
--- Quote ---As to your example of your math test, I think of the over all consequences of the teacher failing you for penmanship... If the teacher didn't note on the exam as to why you failed, what was the point of failing you for bad penmanship?
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He was a bad teacher. Of course it wasn't the smart move--Murphy assaulting Harry wasn't the smart move, which is what this is supposed to be analogous to.
--- Quote ---If it was just one test in many tests you had taken in the class and your over all grade wasn't in the balance, what you say makes sense. However say it was the final that the teach failed you on for penmanship... That failure dropped your over all grade considerably, that lower grade messed up your G.P.A. as a result you missed getting a scholarship or getting into the college you desired.. If you knew you had studied, if the teacher gave you no explanation for the failure, I bet you wouldn't be so accepting of the results...
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Nope. If you have serious confidence problems to do with schoolwork, and you explicitly know that you have problems with the specific subject, you're fairly unlikely to go up to the teacher and demand an explanation. Remember, in this analogy I am the equivalent of Harry, who has a guilt complex (equivalent to "confidence problems to do with schoolwork") and knows that he's messed things up (from his perspective, anyway) with Murphy previously (equivalent to knowing that he's struggling with the class material).
--- Quote ---I also think you'd double check the results for any future test you were about to take..
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You keep your tests once the class you took them for is over? Huh. I don't, so I hadn't included that in my analogy. If it bothers you, just pretend that the teacher didn't hand the tests back, and you found out your grade by looking on the school's website.
Mira:
--- Quote ---You keep your tests once the class you took them for is over? Huh. I don't, so I hadn't included that in my analogy. If it bothers you, just pretend that the teacher didn't hand the tests back, and you found out your grade by looking on the school's website.
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I would if I felt cheated...
--- Quote ---Nope. If you have serious confidence problems to do with schoolwork, and you explicitly know that you have problems with the specific subject, you're fairly unlikely to go up to the teacher and demand an explanation. Remember, in this analogy I am the equivalent of Harry, who has a guilt complex (equivalent to "confidence problems to do with schoolwork") and knows that he's messed things up (from his perspective, anyway) with Murphy previously (equivalent to knowing that he's struggling with the class material).
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One might consider a therapist... Still, if the teacher in a math class flunks you due to penmanship, there should be a note to the fact on you paper... Harry has a guilt complex not because he is sloppy with his work, but perhaps maybe he is too good at it.. Thus he takes the blame when he doesn't deserve any..
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---I would if I felt cheated...
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But the point is that you didn't feel cheated at the time.
--- Quote ---One might consider a therapist...
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Yes, Harry could certainly use one.
--- Quote ---Still, if the teacher in a math class flunks you due to penmanship, there should be a note to the fact on you paper... Harry has a guilt complex not because he is sloppy with his work, but perhaps maybe he is too good at it.. Thus he takes the blame when he doesn't deserve any..
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Okay, I think you misunderstood my analogy.
I'm not saying that:
I am bad at handwriting = Harry is bad at something
I'm saying that:
The teacher's actions (flunking me even though he knew I got the problems right, because he was in a bad mood and didn't like my handwriting) are unprofessional and wrong, and are the conduct of a bad teacher = Murphy's actions (assaulting Harry, refusing to listen to him for any reason) are unprofessional and wrong, and are the conduct of a bad cop
Is that clearer?
Mira:
--- Quote ---I'm saying that:
The teacher's actions (flunking me even though he knew I got the problems right, because he was in a bad mood and didn't like my handwriting) are unprofessional and wrong, and are the conduct of a bad teacher = Murphy's actions (assaulting Harry, refusing to listen to him for any reason) are unprofessional and wrong, and are the conduct of a bad cop
Is that clearer?
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Clearer, but no sure if it matters unless it is part of a bigger picture.. Was your teacher just a bad teacher? Or is what happened to you merely a one of? Murphy's behavior towards Harry may have come from mere frustration because she was dealing with things beyond her understanding... Or is there a pattern of her smacking others around to get answers and her jumping to conclusions about evidence before she has the answers? If the latter than she is a bad cop..
--- Quote ---But the point is that you didn't feel cheated at the time.
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That doesn't make sense unless you had no clue that your answers were right or you were okay with getting your answers dinged because of your poor writing skills.. Harry felt responsible for Kim, that was irrational, he was also in shock about how she was killed.. However he knew that he didn't commit the murder and he didn't care to be punished for it...
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