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I think Murphy is going to get killed here is why

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Wolfeyes:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on June 05, 2019, 03:55:55 AM ---They both backslide and you can't backslide without first improving. It's not surprising that they backslide either, as I said.

We know why Harry has these character flaws. We don't know where Murphy's come from.

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Personally, I think there's a lot that can be inferred. There's a lot of pieces to her on top of her short story that helps put together how she could turn out the way she did. After all, we don't ask *why* Morgan or Langtry or Ebenezer have their flaws though we know how they've messed up and how they've developed.

The story repeatedly says that SI division is not treated well since it's considered a deadend career-wise, and in books like FM we see where her association with Harry becomes a point of stress (and FM is where she has her worst moments before undergoing several books of character development). Then, she loses everything she worked for because she had to make another difficult choice.

Harry also recognizes she has trust issues in regards to getting into relationships after being twice divorced, one being because she was supposedly ignoring him for the job, which doesn't make it difficult to see it extending to other aspects of her life. And that's not even getting into her father's suicide when she was 11.

huangjimmy108:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on June 05, 2019, 03:55:55 AM ---They both backslide and you can't backslide without first improving. It's not surprising that they backslide either, as I said.

We know why Harry has these character flaws. We don't know where Murphy's come from.

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Being a female in a mostly male dominated police station should explain some of it. She have to be tough, or at least to be perceive as such by others.

Working as the director of SI equivalent to be exiled to Siberia in political terms should explain some more. It is relatively reasonable to assume she has been backstab many times in office politics.

Facing the dark side of society as a criminal officer and the dark side of the supernatural world as Harry's partner should explain some more. She is condition to be cautious and suspicious, in the love hurts SS I think she explain some of this. Well, maybe not in the "Love hurts" but it is certainly in "Side jobs". I can't remember clearly . It is the one with Mac's bar being attacked.

Trusting the system of the law and yet being disappointed again and again could explain even more.

And all this without Murphy being the main PoV character. Who knows what else she is facing off screen?

huangjimmy108:

--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on June 05, 2019, 04:00:54 AM ---Wow. Just...wow. This is the single most victim-blaming statement I have ever read. If you can't understand what's wrong with what you said, then I don't really want to talk to you.

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Of course I find nothing wrong with it. At least for now. The relationship between Harry and Murphy is not 1 or 2 months, it is years. 15 years and maybe more. If you have such a manipulative friend for such a long time and you can still trust this person with your life, there is something wrong right there.

nadia.skylark:

--- Quote ---Of course I find nothing wrong with it. At least for now. The relationship between Harry and Murphy is not 1 or 2 months, it is years. 15 years and maybe more. If you have such a manipulative friend for such a long time and you can still trust this person with your life, there is something wrong right there.
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The part of your post that I had a problem with was you insulting everyone who'd ever been on the wrong end of an abusive relationship.

The Murphy-Harry thing is you not reading/not understanding my previous posts again.

huangjimmy108:

--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on June 05, 2019, 04:43:20 AM ---The part of your post that I had a problem with was you insulting everyone who'd ever been on the wrong end of an abusive relationship.

The Murphy-Harry thing is you not reading/not understanding my previous posts again.

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Everyone else is normal people. Harry is a wizard.

And yes, if you are in an abusive relationship and you know it and you allow it, part of the wrong is with you. The only exception to this is if the abusive relationship is between a parent and a child or something like that, with the parent aka the one with the greater power as the one who is dishing out the abuse. When the abusive relationship is with people of equal status, there is a problem with both parties.

If anything, the power balance between Harry and Murphy leans more on Harry. Harry is the one with greater power and knowledge. If he is the one who kept being manipulated, there is something wrong right there.

It is not that I don't understand you. I just do not accept the reasoning. A wizard of Harry's caliber should not have made such a low level mistake, even under those circumstances and issues, not after 6 years. If he is that ggullable, Mab would have turn him into an obedient puppet by now. Or do you think Mab is less ccapable than Murphy.

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