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I think Murphy is going to get killed here is why
huangjimmy108:
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on June 05, 2019, 03:15:16 AM ---So, wait, now Murphy is allowed to have character flaws but Harry isn't? Because that's what having this kind of guilt complex is for Harry. Murphy's arrogance manifests in her placing her judgement above other people's, and Harry's arrogance manifests in him blaming himself for everything--ie, his guilt complex. Personally, I find Harry's manifestation of arrogance far more likable (since, among other things, it is far less likely to hurt other people) than Murphy's, but I have never claimed that either of them having this character flaw somehow "cheapens" them!
You seem to be claiming that for Harry to have character flaws, or at least this character flaw, somehow invalidates both his entire character and the whole book series. That seems ridiculous to me, so perhaps I'm misunderstanding. Could you please clarify whether or not this is what you meant, and if not, what you did mean?
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I am not saying Harry can't get a character flaw. I am just saying it can't possibly be that bad. He is a wizard after all. Making a mistake in the heat of the moment is one thing. But if you are still mistaken after having 6 years of comtemplation, that is something else entirely. Not to mention, in this case, Harry seem not to realize that he is being unfairly treated at all. He is still helping Murphy counting the money after Murphy sold him off.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---I am not saying Harry can't get a character flaw. I am just saying it can't possibly be that bad. He is a wizard after all. Making a mistake in the heat of the moment is one thing. But if you are still mistaken after having 6 years of comtemplation, that is something else entirely. Not to mention, in this case, Harry seem not to realize that he is being unfairly treated at all. He is still helping Murphy counting the money after Murphy sold him off.
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Once again, you demonstrate that you have problems remembering things I've previously posted, and once again I will re-post the relevant bit:
--- Quote ---In that time, Murphy and he have become friends, so it makes sense that he doesn't really think about it that much. Also, in Fool Moon Harry's subconscious notes that he's been blaming himself for Elaine's fall to darkness (at that point, he didn't know that she had been enthralled) for ten years, so...
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huangjimmy108:
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on June 05, 2019, 03:32:31 AM ---Once again, you demonstrate that you have problems remembering things I've previously posted, and once again I will re-post the relevant bit:
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I don't remember it because it does not make sense.
Birds of a feather flocks together, and people who walks different roads cannot make plan together.
If Murphy is so manipulative and abusive, and Harry is still treat her as a friend, that in itself speaks badly about Harry. If he does not even realize he is being manipulated and abuse, he is a fool. If he realize the manipulation and is willing to accept such a treatment, that makes him into a loser.
Murphy and Harry has been partners for a long time. The love hurts SS even portrayed them as a great team. There must be a reason for it. One person keeps manipulating and the other person keep being manipulated and even being happy and content about it, and the guy is suppose to be a wizarcd. Don't you feel it is a joke??
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: huangjimmy108 on June 05, 2019, 02:54:18 AM ---If we want to find excuses to infer that Murphy is bac sliding, we can. If we want to find reasons why she is improving, we can. The same with Harry.
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They both backslide and you can't backslide without first improving. It's not surprising that they backslide either, as I said.
We know why Harry has these character flaws. We don't know where Murphy's come from.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---Birds of a feather flocks together, and people who walks different roads cannot make plan together.
If Murphy is so manipulative and abusive, and Harry is still treat her as a friend, that in itself speaks badly about Harry. If he does not even realize he is being manipulated and abuse, he is a fool. If he realize the manipulation and is willing to accept such a treatment, that makes him into a loser.
Murphy and Harry has been partners for a long time. The love hurts SS even portrayed them as a great team. There must be a reason for it. One person keeps manipulating and the other person keep being manipulated and even being happy and content about it, and the guy is suppose to be a wizarcd. Don't you feel it is a joke??
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Wow. Just...wow. This is the single most victim-blaming statement I have ever read. If you can't understand what's wrong with what you said, then I don't really want to talk to you.
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