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If the Council had tried to execute Molly in Proven Guilty...
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---If the first, Michael is traveling with half the Senior Council and they are followed close on by whoever was chasing them. It's hard to see how a fight would evolve out of the chaos of his arrival in this situation.
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The idea here is that the fight would have already started, and that he would be arriving in the middle of it.
--- Quote ---In a close quarters fight Harry and Molly would have died quickly. That seems to be established. Harry wouldn't have had time to take advantage of whatever Lasciel could have offered. Reason demands that Harry would have had to make the decision to use either the coin or Mab's offer before entering the circle. And he didn't.
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You're forgetting Lash's time-slowing trick. So long as Harry can last a few seconds, there is time for him to call the coin to him.
morriswalters:
No I haven't forgotten it. But Lasciel isn't Superwoman. Harry defeats her fairly easily in Skin Game. And Harry would have been up against Morgans sword which is designed to cleave magic and against the Merlin, who by Jim's word is the most powerful living wizard.
Everyone was locked out with the wards the wardens put on the meeting place, Michael couldn't have gotten in until the fight was over. Unless the Gatekeeper was prepared to open the door once the fight had started. Jim set the stage fairly well.
--- Quote ---I looked wildly around the room for someone, anyone to help, for some way to stop this madness. I felt a sudden pressure against my spine, and I looked over my shoulder.
My eyes fell on the Gatekeeper.
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--- Quote ---“True,” the Gatekeeper replied, very gently, the faintest shade of rebuke in his voice. “But that does not change my moral obligation to make this decision with care.”
The Merlin took a deep breath and then said, forced calm in his voice, “I suppose a few moments for thought are not unreasonable.”
“Thank you,” the Gatekeeper said gravely.
Five minutes went by like five thousand years. Molly sagged against me, so frightened she could barely stand.
“Enough,” the Merlin said, finally. “This travesty needs to end.”
“On that point,” the Gatekeeper said, “we agree.” And then he stepped forward to the circle marked on the floor, and smudged it with his boot, breaking the circle. He flicked a gloved hand, and the lock on the chained door sprang open and fell away, followed closely by the chains.
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Every event in the building was a play for time, each actor taking a round extending the event until Michael and the others could escape to Chicago. The Gatekeeper was watching Michael run with the others, letting Harry extend the string until he ran out at which point the Gatekeeper intervened to run out the clock on the Merlin.
groinkick:
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---No I haven't forgotten it. But Lasciel isn't Superwoman. Harry defeats her fairly easily in Skin Game. And Harry would have been up against Morgans sword which is designed to cleave magic and against the Merlin, who by Jim's word is the most powerful living wizard.
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That's why what Lasciel would do is help him escape.
--- Quote ---Everyone was locked out with the wards the wardens put on the meeting place, Michael couldn't have gotten in until the fight was over.
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The wards can't be that strong--there's no threshold. And if they were that strong I would expect Harry to have commented on it, if only in the same way he always comments on it when he's reminded of how strong the Merlin really is.
morriswalters:
What is your point? What does this scenario accomplish? If Michael broke the sword he would no longer be a Knight, he would have broken with his faith. Harry and Molly would be outlaws under a sentence of death assuming that they escaped.
In terms of how powerful a ward can be I offer this.
--- Quote from: Dead Beat ---"If Senior Council members McCoy and Liberty had not come to our aid, we might have all died there. Even with them, we managed to hold them only long enough for the Gatekeeper and the Merlin to raise a ward behind us, to give us time to escape."
"A ward?" I blurted. "Are you telling me that they stonewalled an entire army of vampires and demons? With one ward?"
"You don't get to be Merlin of the White Council by collecting bottle caps," Ramirez said, his voice dry.
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