The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
If the Denarians are trapped in Demonreach...
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---Or the coin would just abandon it's holder and escape before the holder was imprisoned.
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Can they do that? Given the importance of free will, I would think that the holder would have to choose to release the coin for that to happen.
Cozarkian:
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on April 01, 2019, 09:55:04 PM ---Can they do that? Given the importance of free will, I would think that the holder would have to choose to release the coin for that to happen.
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The importance of free will is the moral choice. A coin holder has to abandon the coin as a condition of repenting. That doesn't mean failing to repent is a guarantee you get to keep the coin.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---The importance of free will is the moral choice. A coin holder has to abandon the coin as a condition of repenting. That doesn't mean failing to repent is a guarantee you get to keep the coin.
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I'm not sure about that. I'm pretty sure that free will is about more than just moral choices--in the books it's stated to be a separate thing that only mortals have. Also, given that we've never seen anyone lose a coin who didn't either choose to give it up or die first, I don't think we can just assume that the coins have One Ring-like powers of escaping their hosts whenever it's convenient. Otherwise, they'd be forever falling out of people's pockets when people tried to contain them, and we've seen that they don't do that.
Avernite:
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on April 02, 2019, 01:27:53 AM ---I'm not sure about that. I'm pretty sure that free will is about more than just moral choices--in the books it's stated to be a separate thing that only mortals have. Also, given that we've never seen anyone lose a coin who didn't either choose to give it up or die first, I don't think we can just assume that the coins have One Ring-like powers of escaping their hosts whenever it's convenient. Otherwise, they'd be forever falling out of people's pockets when people tried to contain them, and we've seen that they don't do that.
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Crassus lost his coin, granted he lost it due to free-willed mortals so you could dodge into that corner, but he absolutely lost it without dying.
peregrine:
Crassus didn't lose the coin, he gave it up, like the post says.
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