The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
If the Denarians are trapped in Demonreach...
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---Crassus didn't lose the coin, he gave it up, like the post says.
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This.
morriswalters:
If you are going to use the One Ring analogy understand what the One ring was trying to do. Bilbo's ring was trying to return to Sauron, its master. It was dropped when Sauron was killed.
The analogy isn't perfect but it is what it is. The Denarians are Sauron. The Church is Gollum. So it isn't a case of the coin abandoning its holder, the case is the church not being able to hold on to the coins.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on April 03, 2019, 04:34:37 AM ---If you are going to use the One Ring analogy understand what the One ring was trying to do. Bilbo's ring was trying to return to Sauron, its master. It was dropped when Sauron was killed.
The analogy isn't perfect but it is what it is. The Denarians are Sauron. The Church is Gollum. So it isn't a case of the coin abandoning its holder, the case is the church not being able to hold on to the coins.
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Sort of.... The coins cannot actively locate hosts, but passively they do ensure that if they are touched or picked up by a potential host they eventually will be accepted.. That was the whole point of the shadow and carefully matching the right coin to the right potential host... One who will be responsive to the particular talents and temptations of the Fallen trapped in the coin.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on March 26, 2019, 07:15:24 PM ---Um...no, actually, you're wrong. Michael says so.
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Michael was saying that in the context of Sonja wanting to use the power of the Swords to punish the Fallen. If the main purpose of the Swords was to save those possessed by the Fallen, it wouldn't be a weapon that's only function is to destroy. Unless anyone can point to an example of one of the Swords doing anything other than destroy whatever enemy that's in the way? This goes to my previous comment which the Swords primary role is to smite those who wish to do evil.
Mira:
--- Quote from: groinkick on April 04, 2019, 05:54:16 AM ---Michael was saying that in the context of Sonja wanting to use the power of the Swords to punish the Fallen. If the main purpose of the Swords was to save those possessed by the Fallen, it wouldn't be a weapon that's only function is to destroy. Unless anyone can point to an example of one of the Swords doing anything other than destroy whatever enemy that's in the way? This goes to my previous comment which the Swords primary role is to smite those who wish to do evil.
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That is their role, but if the adversary surrenders, thus giving himself or herself a chance for redemption down the line, they might not.. A Sword will not allow itself to be misused to quote Michael from Grave Peril... It gets tricky, they are supposed to smite evil,but at the same time
the Knight isn't supposed to act as judge and jury of someone he or she defeated.. But in the course of battle it is okay to smite away... To quote Ned Stark as told to Sansa by Jon Snow, "everything that comes before, "but," is bullshit..."
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