The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
If the Denarians are trapped in Demonreach...
Mira:
--- Quote from: peregrine on March 21, 2019, 05:00:33 AM ---The bearer can't repent if they're dead either, but the Knights don't have a huge problem with using the Swords with lethal intent.
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Exactly, they give the coin holder a goodly chance at surrendering, giving it up to be free to redeem themselves or not with the life remaining to them.. If not, no problem at all giving the chop or stab and retrieving the coin that way...
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---Exactly, they give the coin holder a goodly chance at surrendering, giving it up to be free to redeem themselves or not with the life remaining to them.. If not, no problem at all giving the chop or stab and retrieving the coin that way...
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True, but if the Denarian survives, the Knights have to give him/her another chance to repent the next time they run into each other--the Knight can't just kill the Denarian now just because he she refused to repent last year. Also, the Knights can't just hunt down Denarians and demand that they repent or die--they have to wait until they run into them by "coincidence" or the Denarian(s) is/are doing something actively objectionable. Given the time factor, and since they couldn't be doing anything objectionable locked up in Demonreach, I'm not sure how it would work. Could the Knights just ask the Denarians to repent, and if they refused the Warden would lock them up in Demonreach? Would the Knights have to visit the Denarian prisoners at intervals? What if the Warden just locked up Denarians without anyone asking them to repent--what would the Knights do then?
peregrine:
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on March 21, 2019, 08:51:34 PM --- Also, the Knights can't just hunt down Denarians and demand that they repent or die--they have to wait until they run into them by "coincidence" or the Denarian(s) is/are doing something actively objectionable.
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Given what Forthill said about Michael needing a babysitter for his family, and (I think?) we saw Michael heading to the airport, plus Sanya and Shiro coming to Chicago, that "coincidence" can include things like "Got on a plane and tracked them down."
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---Given what Forthill said about Michael needing a babysitter for his family, and (I think?) we saw Michael heading to the airport, plus Sanya and Shiro coming to Chicago, that "coincidence" can include things like "Got on a plane and tracked them down."
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But not "found out that they were in town kidnapping and murdering people, and went to look for them." It's a little confusing, honestly. I once again don't have my copy of Small Favor, so I can't quote the scene, but the part where Michael refuses to track down the Denarians in that book always struck me as extremely odd--it would have been a rescue mission, after all, but apparently that wasn't acceptable for the Knights to do?
morriswalters:
--- Quote ---...would the KotC try to break them out?
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One might think the prison guard would have a plan for a breakout, like the Banefire for example.
Breaking contact resets the shot clock. They've tried to kill Nic multiple times and have failed. Each time they reengage the clock starts ticking anew and they have to give the Fallen's host a chance to repent. Rinse and repeat. Seem's a little silly to me, but I'm not writing the books.
I believe you misremember Michael's objections in Small Favor.
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