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WAG: why Nicodemus wanted the knife
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---Plus, would Anduriel need Nicodemus if it was free of the coin? I'm thinking probably not. The Fallen might be more effective with a human host like Nicodemus, but most of them wouldn't see it that way
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I think Anduriel probably would, though, given the nature of his relationship to Nicodemus.
--- Quote ---and I doubt Nic would trust letting any of them out of their coins.
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Why? Nicodemus is on their side.
peregrine:
--- Quote from: Cozarkian on April 04, 2019, 10:57:34 PM ---Here is the evidence: In Skin Game, Nicodemus sacrificed his daughter in Hades to protect her from the Enemy. It doesn't make sense that she needs protection from the TWG, because the worst that TWG would do is send her soul to hell for eternal damnation. That means Nicodemus is trying to keep her out of hell and put her in hades (the place) instead. Hades (the god), however, suggests that she isn't going to escape her crimes. Nicodemus is smart enough to know she's still going to be tortured in hades, so there must be some other reason than avoiding torture that explains why hades is preferable to hell. The difference has to be their respective rulers, Hades v. Lucifer. Why would Lucifer be bad and more specifically, why would being sent to hell to be tortured by Lucifer deliver her to the hands of the Enemy? Simple, Lucifer is Nemfected.
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Is not eternal damnation bad enough to want to avoid it? And perhaps Nic was just so focused on avoiding judgement from TWG that he was blinded by the other possible consequences. After all, he got himself played by Mab and Marcone, so he's hardly omniscient.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---Is not eternal damnation bad enough to want to avoid it?
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Except she didn't avoid it.
--- Quote ---And perhaps Nic was just so focused on avoiding judgement from TWG that he was blinded by the other possible consequences.
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I'd like to think that he's a little smarter than that. After all, Roman mythology was the religion he grew up surrounded by.
peregrine:
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on April 05, 2019, 02:54:51 AM ---Except she didn't avoid it.
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Not for lack of trying.
--- Quote ---I'd like to think that he's a little smarter than that. After all, Roman mythology was the religion he grew up surrounded by.
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Yeah, and then he spent the next approximately two millennia as part of Christian mythology.
Mira:
--- Quote from: peregrine on April 05, 2019, 02:37:28 AM ---Is not eternal damnation bad enough to want to avoid it? And perhaps Nic was just so focused on avoiding judgement from TWG that he was blinded by the other possible consequences. After all, he got himself played by Mab and Marcone, so he's hardly omniscient.
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I think it is gross rationalization of Nic's part that eternal damnation in Hades won't be as bad for his daughter than being damned on Judgement Day.. Hades disabused Harry of that notion and if one cares to study Greek or Roman mythology the punishments for those deserving of punishment are pretty bad and eternal, they range from getting one's liver torn out and devoured repeatedly to eternal thirst with only a sieve to try and scoop out water, oh yeah, the rolling up a large bolder up a steep hill only to have it roll back down again...
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