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Re-interpreting the events of Small Favor
dspringer1:
--- Quote ---Also the Archive is an objectively bad choice for mediator here if you think about it. You essentially have 2 smaller powers fighting each other - the best arbiter would be a larger power with the means to enforce their judgement - there is no way Ivy + Kincaid could take on all the Denarians united. The situation was reversed during the duel between Harry & Ortega, where 2 of the largest powers needed a smaller matter mediated - also Ivy + Kincaid could take on Ortega & his vassals if need it (and they did).
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I think you are misunderstanding the role of the arbiter. Their role is to be a neutral party to resolve the issue of the accords. They must be a significant power (as they are a member of the accords) and presumably neutral in the specific conflict. The arbiter would certainly act to enforce the rules of the duel, but is not some supernatural police force. Their role is primarily to witness the duel, make a good faith effort to enforce the rules of the duel -- and (a clearly lesser priority) punish any who break the rules. The threat she made at the beginning with the mordite was to discourage rule breaking, not eliminate the possibility.
Once Ortega got away, she communicated to the accord members the results of the duel, including Ortega's breaking of the rules. It is up to the accord members to enforce the rules - which Ebenezer did by killing Ortega. The Archive's role was not complete.
Not if she feels Ortega's actions shamed her in some way, the archive might choose to get revenge. But revenge (or justice) is not a expected duty of the mediator.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: kbrizzle on December 05, 2018, 03:58:22 PM ---How are we so sure that Harry got Soulfire as a result of the attack on Marcone? I’d always read it as Harry got Soulfire for successfully refusing Lash’s offer for 3-4 years - it was a reward for not Falling to temptation.
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I was talking about this with my brother. My guess is that Harry has access to soulfire because he had access to hellfire. As Bob says, soulfire and hellfire are essentially the same thing. (Chapter 46). Harry just didn't know he had access to it. Uriel "nudged" Harry, showing him he had access to soulfire.
Small Favor, Chapter 30, Harry describing what happened to him that resulted in the use of soulfire:
--- Quote ---It felt something like that-A tiny but critically timed nudge just as I threw my will into a last futile effort of defiance."
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We do know that Uriel did something with Harry to allow him to use soulfire, and that it was likely because in reaction to what Lucifer did. Conversation with "Jake" in Chapter 46:
--- Quote ---"You gotta think that maybe there's a matter of balance, here," [Jake] said. "Maybe one archangel invested his strength in this situation overtly and immediately. Maybe another one was just quieter about it. Thinking long-term. Maybe he already gave you a hand."
My right hand erupted into pins and needles again.
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We also know that it had something to do with resisting Lash. About five of paragraphs later:
--- Quote ---"'The burned hand teaches best,'" I read aloud. ... "What the hell is that supposed to mean?"
[Mab via Grimalkin]: "That your experience with resisting the shadow of the Fallen One has garnered the respect of the Watchman, my Emissary."
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ff88:
So, correct me if I'm wrong but itnt mentioned in passing that Lucifer himself worked on some of MARCONI more complex bindings? Not that I think that Lucifer or the White God will be on screen players til the BAT, but it is worth noting.
toodeep:
Keep in mind, there may have been fall back plans in case abducting Marcone failed to get Harry involved that just never got realized because Harry fell for plan 1. Heck after converting Marcone, if Harry still wasn't involved Marcone (or Nick) could have just directly challenged Harry to a duel like Ortega did and necessitate an arbiter again to draw in the Archive. And then probably a fall back plan if that doesn't work. I mean, you do not work to get literally every Denarian in the world together in one place and cooperating and then go, "whoops, I guess that didn't work, everyone go home, chaos cancelled." Something big was going to happen no matter what Harry did.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: ff88 on December 11, 2018, 02:44:15 AM ---So, correct me if I'm wrong but itnt mentioned in passing that Lucifer himself worked on some of MARCONI more complex bindings? Not that I think that Lucifer or the White God will be on screen players til the BAT, but it is worth noting.
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Lucifer powered both of the "Signs." One that trapped Marcone and one that trapped Ivy.
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