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Did Maggie REALLY curse Raith?

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forumghost:

--- Quote from: groinkick on September 26, 2018, 05:35:32 AM ---The curse Harry was hit by wasn't meant to kill him.  Just to "die alone".  I doubt very many if any on the Council have actually blocked a death curse.  What's the point of a weapon like that if it's not nearly unstoppable?  Up to that point in the series Harry had indicated that anyone that had a death curse pointed at them was toast.

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Yeah but Harry is also deathly allergic to knowledge of any kind.

Book 1: "Yo Bob, what types of Vampires are there?"

It's like, c'mon dude, you spent years living in a city where one was a major crime boss, and you never looked into it until now?

Anyway, my point was that (based on what we know) a Deathcurse is really just a regular curse on Steroids. So it should follow the same rules. If you have a big backer (eg Lord Raith) they can protect you from it. If you have sufficient protections (eg powerful enough Wards) they can protect you from it, and so on.

eg: Maggie Sr's Death Curse would have slid off of Raith if she'd tried to blow him up, she had to work around his protections.

morriswalters:
Death curses are kind of wonky.  We've only seen one character kill without the benefit of any obvious cause.  Eb, in changes, when using the Black Staff.

peregrine:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on September 26, 2018, 09:49:29 AM ---Death curses are kind of wonky.  We've only seen one character kill without the benefit of any obvious cause.  Eb, in changes, when using the Black Staff.

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That's not a death curse.  A death curse is not magic used to kill.  It's dying used to magic.

groinkick:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on September 26, 2018, 09:49:29 AM ---Death curses are kind of wonky.  We've only seen one character kill without the benefit of any obvious cause.  Eb, in changes, when using the Black Staff.

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Simon used his death curse according to the White Council.  He was able to kill a bunch of Red Court Nobles with it....  So not only did he smoke a single powerful enemy but apparently a lot of them.  So not a small thing there.

Eb using magic that didn't require him to die was able to kill a couple hundred people...  That goes to show what a wizard can do with magic, and that wasn't even a death curse which is supposed to be much more powerful.  Again this displays just how much damage a death curse can do which means to defend against one is to display a very powerful capability that few would have.

morriswalters:

--- Quote from: peregrine on September 26, 2018, 02:54:40 PM ---That's not a death curse.  A death curse is not magic used to kill.  It's dying used to magic.

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Yes, I'm aware.  But it's the only use of Magic to kill that didn't leave an obvious cause of death.  If it was easy to kill someone without an obvious use of magic such as fireballs or ripping a heart from a chest and so on, then why did Liver Spots not just kill Harry with his death curse?  Thus my belief that JB's use of death curses is wonky.

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