The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
The Death of Margaret Le Fay
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on September 26, 2018, 06:31:43 PM ---As forumghost points out here, Jim has laid it out. There's really no remaining ambiguity there as to what Maggie Sr. did to Lord Raith.
She was dumb enough to think sleeping with Lord Raith was a good idea, and dumb enough to think any kind of alliance with the Red Court was a good idea. Ebenezer had respect for her judgment ... until he realized what she was doing, and then didn't.
When I say she wasn't smart, I'm not talking about her ability with magic. It seems fairly evident that, as far as her ability with the art goes, she was up there with the best of them. I'm talking about her judgment and foresight, which seems to have been severely lacking.
And her nickname might indicate that -- but to my knowledge, we haven't seen anyone, including Jim, who's said so. Jim's basically said you get that kind of nickname because you deal with the Fae, because you're crazy, or because you're crazy enough to deal with the Fae. His description didn't have much to do with "respect" unless I'm forgetting something.
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It's pretty much laid out in Dead Beat with very little wiggle room. And I don't disagree with you. But look very closely at Harry and realize that the branch doesn't fall far from the tree. Harry's the Winter Knight. His God Mother is Lea. He's an ally with Lara Raith and Marcone. And He's a member of the Grey Council and is enemies with the current Merlin.
I wish JB would write short story about her to flesh out the character. It might be more interesting then three about Big Foot. Or not.
forumghost:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on September 26, 2018, 09:55:55 PM ---It's pretty much laid out in Dead Beat with very little wiggle room. And I don't disagree with you. But look very closely at Harry and realize that the branch doesn't fall far from the tree. Harry's the Winter Knight. His God Mother is Lea. He's an ally with Lara Raith and Marcone. And He's a member of the Grey Council and is enemies with the current Merlin.
I wish JB would write short story about her to flesh out the character. It might be more interesting then three about Big Foot. Or not.
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The main difference is that Harry wants nothing to do with any of those 'Allies' of his and would rather they all die in a fire. He just keeps getting forced into cooperation by circumstances.
Maggie Sr on the other hand is (based on everyone that's spoken of her) a crusading rebel that knew better then everyone else and got in bed with the monsters willingly (and in some cases literally) because she was smarter and knew better and could handle it, unlike those jerks in the White Council that were too narrow minded to see what had to be done.
By all reports she was very much like Harry, true- if Harry never had the early wake-up calls about how ignorant and out-of-his-depth he really was.
morriswalters:
I just get a twitch in the back of my neck when I consider Maggie and Malcolm. We'll see, or rather you might. I think I'll have crossed over before JB gets to the point.
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: forumghost on September 27, 2018, 01:18:23 AM ---The main difference is that Harry wants nothing to do with any of those 'Allies' of his and would rather they all die in a fire. He just keeps getting forced into cooperation by circumstances.
Maggie Sr on the other hand is (based on everyone that's spoken of her) a crusading rebel that knew better then everyone else and got in bed with the monsters willingly (and in some cases literally) because she was smarter and knew better and could handle it, unlike those jerks in the White Council that were too narrow minded to see what had to be done.
By all reports she was very much like Harry, true- if Harry never had the early wake-up calls about how ignorant and out-of-his-depth he really was.
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I was gonna respond, but this is basically everything I was going to say anyway.
As to Maggie Sr. and Malcolm, another point is the theme that she found redemption in someone who was in a lot of ways the exact opposite of everyone she'd tried to work with before. She was probably someone who thought that power and connections and magic were everything -- meeting someone like Malcolm, who had none of that but was still a good man, is what she'd need to see real redemption.
Otherwise, she's just a pawn of the higher powers bouncing her around.
forumghost:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on September 27, 2018, 03:19:29 PM ---I was gonna respond, but this is basically everything I was going to say anyway.
As to Maggie Sr. and Malcolm, another point is the theme that she found redemption in someone who was in a lot of ways the exact opposite of everyone she'd tried to work with before. She was probably someone who thought that power and connections and magic were everything -- meeting someone like Malcolm, who had none of that but was still a good man, is what she'd need to see real redemption.
Otherwise, she's just a pawn of the higher powers bouncing her around.
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Exactly why I hate all the "Malcolm was a Wizard/Scion/KOTC" Theories. They completely undermine the message of how just being a good person can make a difference, because it's not enough to be Good, you have to be Special.
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