The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
The Death of Margaret Le Fay
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: groinkick on September 25, 2018, 05:37:51 AM ---A wizard (Margaret) cursed Lord Raith. Could another wizard remove it?
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Possibly. It'd probably be a question of power and scale -- a regular Death Curse is essentially a human sacrifice ritual with the caster as the sacrifice, so undoing it might likewise require a human sacrifice. Now, I don't exactly expect Lord Raith to be squeamish about that, but this one is also tied into a birth and two lives. I have no idea how that would affect the mechanics of it.
morriswalters:
The question of if it was her death curse that crippled Raith will have to stand until JB decides to lay it out. She could have set the binding before she left and simply used her death curse to trigger it. I don't know.
As to how smart she was, she evidently had some respect from her peers, including her father. She created Harry's ruby with a map of the ways. And her nickname might indicate grudging respect in how she dealt with the fae. JB has said a lot about her, but not in a way that makes her a fully composed character.
--- Quote ---How many lives were saved just from Butters squaring off with Cassius?
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Frodo be damned, Harry is the hero, so of course it would be written that way. ;)
More seriously, I understand the point you are making. I just wish JB would get Harry to adulthood and quit fooling about. He acts like some 10 year olds at times. And you should know, the Butter's plot line has stretched my credulity to my elastic limit.(I'm aware that this makes me an army of 1 :()
Mr. Death:
As forumghost points out here, Jim has laid it out. There's really no remaining ambiguity there as to what Maggie Sr. did to Lord Raith.
She was dumb enough to think sleeping with Lord Raith was a good idea, and dumb enough to think any kind of alliance with the Red Court was a good idea. Ebenezer had respect for her judgment ... until he realized what she was doing, and then didn't.
When I say she wasn't smart, I'm not talking about her ability with magic. It seems fairly evident that, as far as her ability with the art goes, she was up there with the best of them. I'm talking about her judgment and foresight, which seems to have been severely lacking.
And her nickname might indicate that -- but to my knowledge, we haven't seen anyone, including Jim, who's said so. Jim's basically said you get that kind of nickname because you deal with the Fae, because you're crazy, or because you're crazy enough to deal with the Fae. His description didn't have much to do with "respect" unless I'm forgetting something.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on September 26, 2018, 06:31:43 PM ---As forumghost points out here, Jim has laid it out. There's really no remaining ambiguity there as to what Maggie Sr. did to Lord Raith.
She was dumb enough to think sleeping with Lord Raith was a good idea, and dumb enough to think any kind of alliance with the Red Court was a good idea. Ebenezer had respect for her judgment ... until he realized what she was doing, and then didn't.
When I say she wasn't smart, I'm not talking about her ability with magic. It seems fairly evident that, as far as her ability with the art goes, she was up there with the best of them. I'm talking about her judgment and foresight, which seems to have been severely lacking.
And her nickname might indicate that -- but to my knowledge, we haven't seen anyone, including Jim, who's said so. Jim's basically said you get that kind of nickname because you deal with the Fae, because you're crazy, or because you're crazy enough to deal with the Fae. His description didn't have much to do with "respect" unless I'm forgetting something.
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Either that or she's actually ahead of the White Council, and could see what was happening long before it's been realized. She may have seen the threat decades ago that is just now being realized, the Black Council. She could have seen it unfolding from members of the White Council, and couldn't trust them (Except her father who she wanted to bring on board), members of the White Court (Raith), and the Red Court could have seen it unfolding within their own power structures. We know at least one within the White Court called Cowl "master", at it was at a Red Court ceremony that Cowl presented at least one gift that was Nemfected.
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: groinkick on September 26, 2018, 07:07:28 PM ---Either that or she's actually ahead of the White Council, and could see what was happening long before it's been realized. She may have seen the threat decades ago that is just now being realized, the Black Council. She could have seen it unfolding from members of the White Council, and couldn't trust them (Except her father who she wanted to bring on board), members of the White Court (Raith), and the Red Court could have seen it unfolding within their own power structures. We know at least one within the White Court called Cowl "master", at it was at a Red Court ceremony that Cowl presented at least one gift that was Nemfected.
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Most of what we've seen and heard of her doing points more to her being part of the Black Council, not working against it.
Look at her allies: Lord Raith (powered by an Outsider, which we know the Black Council uses) and Red Court (again, uses Outsiders in direct cooperation with Black Council operatives).
She thought the White Council was too restrictive, a viewpoint that Cowl (Black Council operative) shares.
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