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The Death of Margaret Le Fay

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Mr. Death:

--- Quote from: Wizard Sibelis on September 24, 2018, 05:35:33 PM ---Yea no titles in DF have double ontondra meanings for sureski's.

The empty night beyond, just like the apocalyptic reference, none of it will come to fruitation one mere book away or anything. Oh and btw, redue your mythological reading, the gateway in the soul....
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I know they do. In fact, I explicitly acknowledged as much and said I think it's likely actual mirrors will, in fact, play a part:

--- Quote from: Mr. Death on September 24, 2018, 02:38:03 PM ---The mirror seen in Thomas's soul probably has nothing to do with other realities, because it's in his soul.

And the real reason it's called Mirror Mirror is that's the title of the Star Trek episode that introduced Beard Spock. I'm sure there'll be an in-universe reason for it as well, and it would make sense thematically if mirrors (already established in the series as gateways) are in fact how he's pulled through, but I seriously doubt the image in Thomas's soul has anything to do with it.

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--- Quote ---cross that with Malcolms 'death is a doorway 2 person wide', cause it's a personal passage lol.
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--- Quote from: Dead Beat ---He walked around the grave and put his hand on my shoulder.
"Son. Everyone dies alone. That's what it is. It's a door. It's one
person wide. When you go through it, you do it alone." His fingers
squeezed me tight. "But it doesn't mean you've got to be alone
before you go through the door. And believe me, you aren't alone
on the other side."
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Wizard Sibelis:
Yea....?
--- Quote ---I seriously doubt the image in Thomas's soul has anything to do with it.
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--- Quote ---The empty night beyond, just like the apocalyptic reference,
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Mr. Death:

--- Quote from: Wizard Sibelis on September 24, 2018, 06:32:51 PM ---Yea....?

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If this is in reference to the soulgaze between Harry and Thomas, the words "empty" and "night" don't appear anywhere in the description of the demon in the mirror, let alone put together as in the White Court's customary curse.

Oddly, perhaps, for a book centered around the White Court, the term "Empty night" only actually appears once in the whole text.

The passage doesn't even describe any sort of sky, let alone one that could be interpreted even loosely as an "empty night."


--- Quote ---I looked past the young man into the mirror. There I saw one of
those things that I would want to forget. But thanks to the Sight, I
wouldn't. Ever.
The reflection room in the mirror looked like the one I stood in at
first glance. But looking closer revealed that rather than black and
white marble, the place was made from dark, dried blood and sunbleached
bone. A creature stood there at the mirror, directly in
front of Thomas. It was humanoid, more or less Thomas's size,
and its hide shone with a luminous silver glow. It crouched,
hunched and grotesque, though at the same time there was an
eerie beauty about the thing. Its shining white eyes burned with
silent flame. Its bestial face stared eagerly at Thomas, burning with
what seemed to be unsatiated appetite.
The creature's arm also extended to the mirror, and then with a
shiver I realized that its limb was reaching a good foot past the
mirror's surface. Its gleaming claws were sunk into Thomas's
shaking forearm, and drops of dark blood had run from the
punctures. Thomas's arm, meanwhile, had sunk into the mirror,
and I saw his fingers digging in hard upon the flesh of the
creature's forearm. Locked together, I sensed that the two were
straining against each other. Thomas was trying to pull himself
away from the thing. The creature was trying to drag him into the
mirror, there among the dried blood and dead bones.
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morriswalters:

--- Quote from: Mr. Death on September 24, 2018, 02:38:03 PM ---Eh, it's probably just because he doesn't want anyone who can usurp him.
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One doesn't preclude the other.
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on September 24, 2018, 02:38:03 PM ---Because Margaret La Fay, famous for traveling the Ways in Faerie for more than 100 years, couldn't have met Lea without the man that she just met introducing them?

And Lea knowing Margaret isn't enough explanation for Lea's affection toward Harry? Considering Lea explicitly references her relationship to Margaret whenever it comes up, and almost never Malcolm?

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I don't offer this very seriously, it's just idle musing.  But I haven't been left with the idea that the fae are into the concept of best friends, nor are they givers of information without a quid pro quo.

Mr. Death:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on September 24, 2018, 07:02:39 PM ---One doesn't preclude the other.I don't offer this very seriously, it's just idle musing.  But I haven't been left with the idea that the fae are into the concept of best friends, nor are they givers of information without a quid pro quo.
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They may not be, but I don't see a reason that Malcolm would be needed to justify Lea's involvement when we know that Margaret spent a century or so interacting directly with fae.

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