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Will the Big Moment Come in Peace Talks?
forumghost:
My opinion is that Rasid never said such a confrontation was going to occur.
What he said was "If you challenge the Council you will die." And when prompted as to why he cared said "It is not your hour"- A common expression used to say "you shouldn't die right now".
This is imo purely a response to the second half of the previous statement, not the first. AKA Rashid was intervening to stop Harry from getting his dumb ass killed.
The idea that Harry can/will take the Senior Council on has always been a bizarre reading of that conversation to my mind.
forumghost:
--- Quote from: Arjan on August 23, 2018, 05:28:36 PM ---Watch out someone might see that as a challenge.
Throw in some time traveling and you can probably build a theory based on Bianca = Mavra
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I mean the Black Court is capable of converting other Species of Vampire into one of their own...
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: forumghost ---"It is not your hour"- A common expression used to say "you shouldn't die right now".
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It's actually a paraphrase of a Bible quote, uttered by Christ. John 2.4.
--- Quote ---"Woman, what has this to do with me? My hour has not yet come."
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Evidently referring to his Crucifixion.
The Gatekeeper seems to be conveniently always around to have something enigmatic to say. He pops up in some weird places. He's hob nobs with the Mothers and has pissed off Demonreach. I smell a talking head. Version 2.
It is almost certain that Harry will go head to head with some members of the Senior Council, assuming that the Black Council is represented there.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Ananda on August 23, 2018, 10:19:07 PM ---You asked “why should” there be more than one person essentially on the jury. Whatever the case with this organisation, I answered why there should be. :)
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I should have asked why would :)
Of course the white council is flawed in many ways.
Ananda:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 24, 2018, 02:31:09 AM ---It's actually a paraphrase of a Bible quote, uttered by Christ. John 2.4. Evidently referring to his Crucifixion.
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You know those books weren’t written in english, right? That means the translator just used an existing phrase. :P
Speaking of ancient stories and their translations, I absolutely love the Grene, Latimore english versions of Aeschylus and Sophocles. Some of the lines in Agamemnon are amazing.
And, on the figurative “hour” stuff, you have to love Yeats’ The second coming. As a member of the golden dawn, his verse was full of interesting imagery!
--- Quote ---Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
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