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Will the Big Moment Come in Peace Talks?
Wizard Sibelis:
--- Quote from: Ananda on August 07, 2018, 01:37:43 AM ---Punishment aside, wasn’t killing all those people supposed to affect Dresden in some major way? The current books talk about Eb’s staff protecting him which leads to the conclusion that there’s something to protect against. So, what, if anything, happened to Dresden?
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Eh, now any significant lack of manifestation I chalk up to the dark magic cleansing foo dog.
Carl:
For some reason missed these two posts until just now, you know because reasons.
--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 07, 2018, 01:05:20 AM --- (click to show/hide)I'm not in competition with anyone. I was trying to offer sympathy. Obviously it fell flat. For the record we bury people in both seasons every year from weather effects. Not to mention floods and tornados. And I've built many snow people. :)
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Oh i read it as (snarky), sympathy, i was just trying to snark back ;).
--- Quote from: Arjan on August 07, 2018, 04:40:06 AM ---No you can’t because those stains could have many causes not all caused by breaking the laws. They are also very subjective and you don’t want to execute someone just because is not Lilly white enough just because of a soul gaze, you need extra evidence especially if someone is already a group member.
That is why they wanted to invalidate his membership. You can do all kind of things with people who do not belong.
And Harry already had some stains from killing Justin. Just being stained is not breaking laws. The grey wardens are probably all a bit stained if you look at it from the perspective of someone whe kept his soul particularly clean.
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Not just that but look at Ebeneezer and Harry, they traded a soulgaze way back, yet him being the blackstaff came as a complete shock to Harry. As WoJ pointed out a soulgaze shows you the essential essence of a person, but not everything about him/her. In Molly's case she;s in her formative years with her magic having just appeared and with a limited set of life experiences acting on her. there's functionally less to her personality for the stain to hide behind. On top of all that Harry has a pre-existing stain from killing Justin and has been soulgazed by the majority of senior wizards allready. There's no way for them to tell what is from what source.
Arjan:
Harry was not soul gazed by a majority of wizards during his trial because that would have brought a level of knowledge and understanding on both sides that was clearly not there in Summer Knight.
A soul gaze stays with you so you don’t want to look at warlocks more than necessary, it can give you some ugly memories that never disappear.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on August 08, 2018, 05:01:49 AM ---Harry was not soul gazed by a majority of wizards during his trial because that would have brought a level of knowledge and understanding on both sides that was clearly not there in Summer Knight.
A soul gaze stays with you so you don’t want to look at warlocks more than necessary, it can give you some ugly memories that never disappear.
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Yes to the second part, but the reason Harry wasn't soul gazed by the whole Council at his trial is the same reason Molly wasn't... Protocol, the arresting warden does the soul gazing of the perp and testifies as to what he/she observed in that soul gaze. Which, when you think about it opens another can of worms, interpretation is based on the mind and experience of the one doing the soul gazing.
Avernite:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 08, 2018, 12:01:36 PM ---Yes to the second part, but the reason Harry wasn't soul gazed by the whole Council at his trial is the same reason Molly wasn't... Protocol, the arresting warden does the soul gazing of the perp and testifies as to what he/she observed in that soul gaze. Which, when you think about it opens another can of worms, interpretation is based on the mind and experience of the one doing the soul gazing.
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IIRC Carlos had to give a second opinion re:Molly, and I suppose that is supposed to catch any too-egregious interpretation effects. I imagine Harry, too, was soulgazed by two Wardens.
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