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Will the Big Moment Come in Peace Talks?
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: Carl ---Yeah but i doubt you get lows of -5 most years either in the winter, and snow is that weird stuff that happens to other people.
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(click to show/hide)I'm not in competition with anyone. I was trying to offer sympathy. Obviously it fell flat. For the record we bury people in both seasons every year from weather effects. Not to mention floods and tornados. And I've built many snow people. :)
Ananda:
--- Quote from: Carl on August 06, 2018, 08:40:53 PM ---We know from death masks that she didn't, Butters did the autopsy's. Harry got off because no one, not even butters could determine how most of the actual human remains died.
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I thought these acts were supposed to leave some sort of stain on the perpetrator? Couldn’t they just take a look at Dresden for such “stains”? There were quite a few dead, so it wouldn’t have been too subtle. Molly used magic to try to help a baby and a couple of junkies and Dresden saw the darkness in her in his gaze thingie. Morgan was cray-cray in Storm Front, lusted for blood in later books, but where was he after this? Maybe on holiday in Ibiza?
Punishment aside, wasn’t killing all those people supposed to affect Dresden in some major way? The current books talk about Eb’s staff protecting him which leads to the conclusion that there’s something to protect against. So, what, if anything, happened to Dresden?
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Ananda on August 07, 2018, 01:37:43 AM ---I thought these acts were supposed to leave some sort of stain on the perpetrator? Couldn’t they just take a look at Dresden for such “stains”? There were quite a few dead, so it wouldn’t have been too subtle. Molly used magic to try to help a baby and a couple of junkies and Dresden saw the darkness in her in his gaze thingie. Morgan was cray-cray in Storm Front, lusted for blood in later books, but where was he after this? Maybe on holiday in Ibiza?
Punishment aside, wasn’t killing all those people supposed to affect Dresden in some major way? The current books talk about Eb’s staff protecting him which leads to the conclusion that there’s something to protect against. So, what, if anything, happened to Dresden?
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No you can’t because those stains could have many causes not all caused by breaking the laws. They are also very subjective and you don’t want to execute someone just because is not Lilly white enough just because of a soul gaze, you need extra evidence especially if someone is already a group member.
That is why they wanted to invalidate his membership. You can do all kind of things with people who do not belong.
And Harry already had some stains from killing Justin. Just being stained is not breaking laws. The grey wardens are probably all a bit stained if you look at it from the perspective of someone whe kept his soul particularly clean.
Carl:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on August 06, 2018, 11:20:41 PM ---I was thinking of after the coroner stage. Although I suppose Bianca personally might have been dead before Butters was done with them.
The Red Court hierarchy would have had an incentive to claim the bodies and dispose of them before anyone could double-check Butters' work and notice that hey, he's got a point after all.
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Yeah but thats the thing, no one else likely would notice. You don't think they got butters committed to a mental institution just on hearsay, likely one of the other coroners looked at it, came up with an explanation and then used that as expert testimony to get him committed. If the bodies had just vanished it's a safe bet butters would have noticed when he got back and mentioned somthing too. Remember the masquerade works because 99% of mortals are fully willing to disbelieve in the supernatural even when it walks right up and smacks them in the mouth hard enough to leave scars.
Ananda:
--- Quote from: Arjan on August 07, 2018, 04:40:06 AM ---No you can’t because those stains could have many causes not all caused by breaking the laws. They are also very subjective and you don’t want to execute someone just because is not Lilly white enough just because of a soul gaze, you need extra evidence especially if someone is already a group member.
That is why they wanted to invalidate his membership. You can do all kind of things with people who do not belong.
And Harry already had some stains from killing Justin. Just being stained is not breaking laws. The grey wardens are probably all a bit stained if you look at it from the perspective of someone whe kept his soul particularly clean.
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While discussing this and some other stuff recently, it struck me that it’s interesting how matter of factly many responses are when discussing things that aren’t actually in the books. I don’t necessarily mean this answer, but in general.
Re: invalidating his membership
That’s why I speculated that Rashid could have had returning Dresden to the fold by obligating him with payment as an ulterior motive. Essentially, to keep him from having “other” status and so being the object of fear because, as evinced by history, frightened people are scary.
Having said that, I do have the feeling that the Merlin doesn’t currently want Dresden dead, though that is subject to change! It’s my speculation that, st the moment, he finds him more useful alive than dead. They could have a whole bromance buddy cop adventure, the Merlin and Dresden. That could be fun.
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