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Love Potion, Huge Violation of 3rd Law?
forumghost:
Yeah, all Harry made was something like a magic roofie/anti-inhibitor/Viagra drug.
It's skeevie as hell (assuming that you intend to use it) but not actually illegal under the Laws of Magic.
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: Paviel on July 11, 2018, 08:09:23 PM ---I don't think there have ever been any "traditional" love potions in the Dresden Files, have there?
The Third and Fourth Laws might be the reason why not.
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We haven't seen any, and you're right that that's probably why.
The closest is probably that belt from Love Hurts.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on July 11, 2018, 07:15:05 PM ---Doesn't matter if it's voluntarily taken or not.
Altering someone else's mind is a violation.
Besides, you've never heard of someone drugging someone's drink? Choosing to drink something doesn't mean you willfully and knowingly consent to everything that's in that drink.
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Actually with mind magic permission is everything otherwise the gatekeeper could not even start helping Peabody's many victims.
So even if the potion is mind altering (not according to the rpg as quoted earlier) and even if there is no difference between giving someone a potion to drink and using magic directly (there might be no moral difference if you deceive someone into drinking it but the laws of magic are not about morals and technicalities can make a huge difference, that is why the wardens can use magic swords to kill people)
Even then there is consent. If you tell someone what the potion is and what it does the consent is everything. With consent it is not an invasion. It can be seen as a medicine in certain circumstances.
Besides if you make a potion bomb you can kill people but if you use it on fairies it is ok. So you just say to the next warden those love potions are for use on fairies. Or for your own consumption, it certainly will cure your shyness, maybe in small doses it will just give you some courage to do what you want to do anyway.
forumghost:
I mean why spend hours brewing a potion when you can just do the old Jedi Mind Trick anyways?
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: Arjan on July 11, 2018, 08:13:54 PM ---Actually with mind magic permission is everything otherwise the gatekeeper could not even start helping Peabody's many victims.
So even if the potion is mind altering (not according to the rpg as quoted earlier) and even if there is no difference between giving someone a potion to drink and using magic directly (there might be no moral difference if you deceive someone into drinking it but the laws of magic are not about morals and technicalities can make a huge difference, that is why the wardens can use magic swords to kill people)
Even then there is consent. If you tell someone what the potion is and what it does the consent is everything. With consent it is not an invasion. It can be seen as a medicine in certain circumstances.
Besides if you make a potion bomb you can kill people but if you use it on fairies it is ok. So you just say to the next warden those love potions are for use on fairies. Or for your own consumption, it certainly will cure your shyness, maybe in small doses it will just give you some courage to do what you want to do anyway.
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I think that depends on whether we're talking about the practical application of the law or the cosmic-application of the law.
Getting affirmative consent to look in someone's mind might get the White Council off your back, but that doesn't mean you're not being tainted by the use of black magic.
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