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Love Potion, Huge Violation of 3rd Law?

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groinkick:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 08, 2018, 06:30:44 PM ---I have just read the salient parts of Storm Front.  The passage is hilarious.  That I find it so probably says something.I'm gonna have to go with massively impaired judgement at a minimum.  And if it ain't mind magic then somebody needs to tell me why.  So I call it a violation.

On Mouse's narration in Zoo day.  I've seen adults who forget how to talk normally when they are talking to kids.  And given that Mouse takes commands like, Kill Him!  I'm gonna go with he's in kid mode.  And for the record, the narration by Mouse in the Zoo Day audiobook blows.

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It's not mind magic because nobody is in her mind.  Mind magic damages the wizard (magical corruption), and the mind of the victim (usually leads to insanity if done enough).  Having the mind impaired by a potion isn't much different than drugging someone's drink.  It's morally bad but neither qualify as mind invasion

peregrine:

--- Quote from: Mr. Death on August 08, 2018, 06:15:51 PM ---They're two very different situations and years apart from one another.

Most people don't speak or act the same way around 10-year-olds at the zoo as they do around people that they consider a deadly threat to them and the people they care about.

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Like Mouse's Shadow?  Which was actually more of a threat than Leah, being actively opposed to Harry and Maggie rather than nominally on the same side.

Mr. Death:

--- Quote from: peregrine on August 08, 2018, 06:53:13 PM ---Like Mouse's Shadow?  Which was actually more of a threat than Leah, being actively opposed to Harry and Maggie rather than nominally on the same side.

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If the best he can do is send a bunch of fun-sized demons and a totally-untrained summoner to oppose Harry and Maggie, I don't think he's more of a threat than the creature who casually turned half a dozen people into hounds and outright killed a Lord of Outer Night.

Paviel:

--- Quote ---If Morgan had known about it he very well may have tried to get Harry on that charge...
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Morgan was there when Susan vomited it up; he must have known about it. But no, he didn't try to get Harry on that charge.

So clearly love potions don't violate any of the Laws of Magic.

peregrine:

--- Quote from: Mr. Death on August 08, 2018, 09:01:04 PM ---If the best he can do is send a bunch of fun-sized demons and a totally-untrained summoner to oppose Harry and Maggie, I don't think he's more of a threat than the creature who casually turned half a dozen people into hounds and outright killed a Lord of Outer Night.

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I didn't say more dangerous, I said more of a threat.  Lea was more or less on Harry's side. 

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