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Molly and the guy in black

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Arjan:

--- Quote from: wardenferry419 on July 19, 2018, 08:26:28 AM ---Maybe, if Harry can find a way to have sex with Molly; then, he will escape the WK role. But, it would require moving Molly up in roles as a sacrifice.

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Kill Mab.

Really. That is the only way for Harry to have sex with Molly.

Fcrate:

--- Quote from: Arjan on July 19, 2018, 08:35:51 AM ---Kill Mab.

Really. That is the only way for Harry to have sex with Molly.

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Now, that's real incentive. lol
But seriously, I doubt killing her Mother would seal the deal.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Fcrate on July 19, 2018, 09:10:46 AM ---Now, that's real incentive. lol
But seriously, I doubt killing her Mother would seal the deal.

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Of course then Molly would get Mab's throne and then they can consumate their marriage and get a bunch of changelings as future spare ladies.

LordDresden2:

--- Quote from: Mr. Death on July 10, 2018, 03:31:49 PM ---Harry's prime motive was that he's known Molly since she was a child and it just feels wrong to him. I'm sure Michael and how he would react was one of the reasons, but not the prime one.

And Harry is not stronger than the Lady. He's a mortal with borrowed power, she's a minor goddess.

If anything, I'd say Molly's taking on the mantle cements that nothing is going to happen between the two any time soon. Harry doesn't want it, Molly knows it can't happen, Harry sure as hell isn't going to brute force it (i.e., rape her), and even if he tried the Lady mantle would tear him to shreds.

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I agree that nothing is likely to happen soon, for most of the reasons you list, but I suspect that 'Harry doesn't want it' is no longer so clear cut as it once was.  At one time, yeah, Harry thought of Molly as 'the kid', but that's changing, in his own mind, whether he wants it to or not, he's somewhat in denial about it, but his friends (including Murphy, I note) see it.

LordDresden2:

--- Quote from: jbmdw45 on July 10, 2018, 04:13:12 PM ---I don't think it has to be an either/or thing, and there are external factors too like her increased self-confidence (which shows in her interactions with Harry much earlier, during the dream sequence). But "libido" isn't the vibe I was getting from Molly at the end. It was "warmth", and I don't think that's a Winter thing per se.

More to the point, if the guy in black is going out of his way to tell Harry to seduce Molly, do you think he's going to pass up the opportunity when he gets the chance to interact with Molly directly? No way. I don't know exactly what he would have said to her but I'm sure she would come out of that interaction feeling special and closer to Harry than before.

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As far as id-Harry going behind Harry's back to talk to Molly...it could be.  There is precedent for this, remember how id-Harry and Lash did exactly that.  Id-Harry does want Molly, we already know that, he's mentioned it to Harry.  If id-Harry and Molly were linked up mentally...yeah, I could easily see it as a possibility.

I could well imagine id-Harry telling Molly something like, "Don't despair, kiddo, you're getting to him whether he'll admit it yet or not."

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