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Was Nemesis in Storm Front?

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raidem:
Who are you talking to Peregrine.

peregrine:
Mira

jonas:

--- Quote from: groinkick on June 23, 2018, 06:09:07 AM ---My opinion is Nemesis IS the corruption.  It sounds much like Hastur from Lovecraft

"Hastur (The Unspeakable One, Him Who Is Not to be Named, Assatur, Xastur, H'aaztre, or Kaiwan) is an entity of the Cthulhu Mythos. "

Hastur's main weapon is to instill insanity in it's victims minds.  The people often create a symbol that they show to other people, and supposedly anyone who sees the symbol is capable of being influenced by Hastur.
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I always pegged Hastur for an Odin type, being a Wind deity, having power instilled in a rune, ect.



--- Quote ---I do agree that it's not all powerful.  It may be similar to being connected to a Coin.  Most people seem to succumb, but if the will is there they can refuse it.

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Exactly why it's so unnoticed amongst Humans, We've always been free to ignore the devil on our shoulder. And why it's comes to a head in Warlocks, they are making choices and becoming more of what they are in doing so. Harder to push against something that starts to be part of whom you are on an active creation level.... Think about it this way(cause I do lol) the Devil is free to whisper to us all he wants(or he used to be before being trapped) and as the Adversary, something given an active position in Bibliography, Nemesis's role is to do the same now?
*this ties heavily into the idea of the personal vs united shadow, the references to the devil within us, not our dark side, but the united aspect that that represents the interchangeable darkness. If Nemesis is humanities shadow until we trade into one specifically, Like Harry did with Lasciel. Lasciel broke the rules in CH because she was not supposed to act outside the coin, even though she already had Harry mirroring her from before. The proper person whose supposed to be whispering at us is Nemesis. The Denarian's procreate darkness and apocalyptic aura's thereby distilling it from building up while simultaneously eating up the soul of the host and creating a mirror, ergo stopping N and her cohorts from doing either, and remanifesting through the Denarians, or anyone else since the denarians are already holding the inside reality mirror for those aspects that they are relative to. The Denarians are part of our immune system.

groinkick:

--- Quote from: jonas on June 23, 2018, 04:50:27 PM ---I always pegged Hastur for an Odin type, being a Wind deity, having power instilled in a rune, ect.

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The entire series has been building around Outsiders being the enemy, and now you got Mother Winter, Odin, and Rashid as Outsider gods...  Anyone else you peg as an Outsider?

jonas:

--- Quote from: groinkick on June 23, 2018, 06:11:31 PM ---The entire series has been building around Outsiders being the enemy, and now you got Mother Winter, Odin, and Rashid as Outsider gods...  Anyone else you peg as an Outsider?

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Look again at Mab and what her Fortess actually is, It's a giant's home, a Jotun? MW is certainly an ice giantess... The whole story is predicated on the idea Outsiders finding a place inside. The Jotun Odin fought in his era became the source of power for the winter court, ergo denying them the ability to mirror those things in the darkness. That's the whole point of the fairy courts balance.
Hell the whole point of the DF is giving them masks in reality that are copacetic with existence.
Look at the stars on Lady Nights neck in CH, vs the 5 points of creation, the five times of DR, each syncing to a different source of creation or the five current in the Fae pantheon, Mab, Titania, EK, Kringle, and.... Nemesis.(more akin to Ursula here, the Queen version)
and go back, way back to the beginning, to when any of these things die. They all enter the same individual shadows, the same... imprint on the universe. Those five imprints are those 3 who walk before, he who walks behind and Nemesis.(the Mother version) It's why they are described similar to necromantic creatures being 'deep', they are echo's on creation that don't really wanna let it go.
They get to be so, because they tend to die per their descriptive name, others probably don't have the same description even if they come from the same archetype. Those who walk before the end, and he who walks after, Death. (hhwbh as death has many connections...) and the Judge who decides the Fate. The Horsemen once they have a viable host to be their beast of burden.... anytime those specific consciousness(or whatever, collective spiritual identity) manifest it's in tune with that description causing, by their own nature, The End. (hence why Nic specifically was calling apocalyptic powers of Disease, a previous horsemen he does not want an identity/aspects to come back to, so he spreads it out and then takes the smut with Anduriel.

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