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Quantus:

--- Quote from: raidem on May 17, 2018, 04:08:17 PM ---Murphy shot the FBI guy (Denton) coming up behind Harry with a club or something.  On second reading however, it does say that Murphy...Harry used the silver amulet he inherited from his mother in a sling shot spell to kill the Loup Garou.

Early speculation was that perhaps Harry had actually permanently ended the Loup Garou curse. Of course, nothing would be that simple.  That said, we have wondered if something special happened that night with Harry taking down that Loup Garou in that way other than of course killing the Loup Garou.

What has long made me curious as to what Mab was up to in Fool Moon was this...
Hmm...
Well, if I was to combine my Murphy/Mab theory with some of these events maybe she gave Murphy an assist when she went all Rambo like against the Loup Garou after one shotting Denton.  That wasn't part of the story told until Susan video taped it.

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Hmm, you're right, and in the text of the actual event it made it seem clear that just the amulet that did him in; I remembered the part where she'd made her own silver bullets and had sort of combined the scenarios in my mind.  I really need to read the early ones more.  I find early murphy fairly abrasive compared to later on, so I tend to avoid them on my rereads.

Kindler:

--- Quote from: Quantus on May 17, 2018, 04:50:47 PM ---I really need to read the early ones more.  I find early murphy fairly abrasive compared to later on, so I tend to avoid them on my rereads.

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Yeah, she's just an obstructionist bureaucratic Law-man until at least Summer Knight. It makes sense she'd be so distrustful, at least in Storm Front, but after that? With all the supernatural whatsits she's seen? Come on. She fought a freaking giant scorpion while handcuffed to a wizard that was slinging fire around like nobody's business, and she doesn't think Harry deserves the benefit of the doubt?

Mostly, in my uninformed opinion, I think that Jim was still sticking very strictly to the formula he had developed out of contrariness to his professor. It took a few books for him to get it. I always told my students in a novel-writing course I taught, "The best way to learn how to write a book is to write a book, then several more."

forumghost:

--- Quote from: Quantus on May 17, 2018, 04:50:47 PM ---Hmm, you're right, and in the text of the actual event it made it seem clear that just the amulet that did him in; I remembered the part where she'd made her own silver bullets and had sort of combined the scenarios in my mind.  I really need to read the early ones more.  I find early murphy fairly abrasive compared to later on, so I tend to avoid them on my rereads.

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Murphy wasn't just abrasive in the first couple books, she was a straight-up asshole, especially in Fool Moon.


--- Quote from: Fool Moon Chapter 12 ---I stared at the sketch. "Karrin," I began again. "Stars above, you've got to listen to me." I took the sketch from her hands, my fingers trembling.

"Harry," she said, in a calm tone. "You lying bastard," and on the word she drove her fist into my stomach, hard, doubling me over. The motion put my head within easy reach, and her fist took me across the jaw in a right cross that sent me to the floor like a lump of wet pasta, stars dancing in my vision.

I was only dimly aware of her taking the sketch back from me. She twisted my arms painfully behind my back, and snapped her handcuffs around my wrists. "You promised me," she said, her voice furious. "You promised. No secrets. You lied to me all along. You played me like a sucker the entire while. Godammit, Dresden, you're involved in this and people are dying."

"Murph," I mumbled. "Wait."

She grabbed my hair, jerked my head back, and slammed me across the jaw again, near-berserk anger lending her strength. My head swam, and blackness closed over my vision for several seconds.

"No more talking. No more lies," I heard her say, and she dragged me to my feet, shoved my face and chest against a wall, and began searching me for weapons. "No more people torn up like meat on a block. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law."
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Like Jesus Karrin, what the shit? Harry was quite blatantly in shock when he saw Kim, he LED you to Macfinn, he's obviously not involved. If you'd actually managed to bring Harry in after that, he could have had your badge and been out of Cuffs within about a fucking hour.

That whole thing would have been dodgy at the best of times- no charges made at time of the arrest (she skips straight to reading his rights) so we're already looking at an illegal arrest- and the ties you have between him and the death are paper thin in any case. But on top of that, Assault and Police Brutality?

Anyone (including Dresden) that says Murphy was a good cop is full of shit.

peregrine:
You don't need to tell someone what you're charging them with in order to arrest them.

forumghost:
She can arrest him if she has grounds (eg, she has reasonable suspicion he has committed a Serious Crime or will do so) Or if she has a Warrant. She has neither.

Her only 'Evidence' tying him to the scene is non-admissible given that it's a piece of paper that she's been carrying around in her pocket for several days because she was spying on him before she had any grounds to begin and investigation into his person. She knows for a fact that Harry is the worlds shittiest liar, he's quite obviously out of his head, and he's also the only reason they have anything at all on this case.

Let's not get into the Felony Assault and Police Brutality.

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