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Snoopy, Loup Garou, and Mouse

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Avernite:

--- Quote from: RobReece on May 14, 2018, 08:40:18 PM ---Here's the quote from Changes, the description is from Esmerelda...


“The Ik’k’uox,” she said in a distant, puzzled voice. “It is in pain. It flees. It . . .” She opened her eyes very wide, and suddenly they flooded in solid black, just as the creature’s had been. “Oh! It cheated!” Her face turned down to mine, and she bared her fangs. “It cheated! It brought a demon of its own! A mountain ice demon from the Land of Dreams!”

Butcher, Jim. Changes (The Dresden Files, Book 12) (p. 201). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.

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I would add a WAG here: Lovecraftian horror also includes the Dreamlands, in which there is the occasional spat with the true horrors that we'd equate with Butcher's Outsiders.

So... maybe Mouse is from a piece of the Nevernever called the Land of Dreams where the Foo Dogs (used to) stand firm against the Outside.

Quantus:

--- Quote from: raidem on May 16, 2018, 03:51:58 PM ---Harry killed the Loup Garou while the link was still active.  That could have had spill down effects on the link on Snoopy and extended its lifetime.  Whatever the case may be, I believe this Snoopy doll will show up again in the series.  If Harry or others ever need a link to a Loup Garou again, that doll would probably make a better stand in than many other items as it had already been linked to it before.

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Nah, the snoopy doll was used during the assault on the CPD precinct.  By the time murphy shot the Loup Garou at Marcones place Harry had already escaped and been beaten and I think kidnapped at least once.  I dont think he still had the doll at the final showdown, and I doubt Murphy would have taken it back to her desk afterward (since it would either be evidence or a very bad reminder of the assault).

raidem:
I didn't say Harry took the snoopy with him to the final assault.  We do know that Harry used a magical spell and a thaumaturgical link between blood smeared snoopy and loup garou to dull it's senses.  This was an ongoing spell that wouldn't end until after sunrise/noon, one day, or what have you.  What I'm wondering if there was an active link to go from small to large then can the loup garou's  death cause feedback from large to small.

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--- Quote from: raidem on May 16, 2018, 08:59:35 PM ---I didn't say Harry took the snoopy with him to the final assault.  We do know that Harry used a magical spell and a thaumaturgical link between blood smeared snoopy and loup garou to dull it's senses.  This was an ongoing spell that wouldn't end until after sunrise/noon, one day, or what have you.  What I'm wondering if there was an active link to go from small to large then can the loup garou's  death cause feedback from large to small.

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Oooh, ok i misunderstood what you were saying.  I looked back and I was wrong in two different ways: I thought the spell was a distraction during the assault itself before he got blasted through a couple buildings, I forgot that it was after and supposed to drive the loup to ground.  Harry said when he cast it that it would last until the next sunrise, and I thought the final confrontation was the following evening.  Turns out he just passed out like three times in a row that night. 

raidem:

--- Quote ---By the time murphy shot the Loup Garou at Marcones place Harry had already escaped
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Murphy shot the FBI guy (Denton) coming up behind Harry with a club or something.  On second reading however, it does say that Murphy...

--- Quote ---In the film, the static clears and you can see Murphy shoot Denton off of my back, just before he brains me with his club. Then she spins around like Rambo, jumps out of the way of the leaping furry something-or-other, and empties the rest of her clip into the thing out of reflex.
Murph and I both know the bullets didn't hurt it at all, that it was just a reflexive gesture on her part, but I don't need the attention. She was quite the hero according to the camera, and that was fine with me
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Harry used the silver amulet he inherited from his mother in a sling shot spell to kill the Loup Garou.

Early speculation was that perhaps Harry had actually permanently ended the Loup Garou curse. Of course, nothing would be that simple.  That said, we have wondered if something special happened that night with Harry taking down that Loup Garou in that way other than of course killing the Loup Garou.

What has long made me curious as to what Mab was up to in Fool Moon was this...

--- Quote ---"We're all cold, moron," Murphy snapped. "A front came through about the same time they threw us in that freaking pit. It must be below "We're all cold, moron," Murphy snapped. "A front came through about the same time they threw us in that freaking pit. It must be below
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Hmm...
Well, if I was to combine my Murphy/Mab theory with some of these events maybe she gave Murphy an assist when she went all Rambo like against the Loup Garou after one shotting Denton.  That wasn't part of the story told until Susan video taped it.

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