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Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: groinkick on April 26, 2018, 04:27:50 AM ---Rashid has displayed playing around with Time...  Perhaps he's more than just the Gatekeeper.

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Perhaps.  But I'd imagine they all have only so much space in their buckets.  Harry's a warden, the Warden, and the Winter Knight.  Rashid is a Senior Council Member and the Gatekeeper.      The latter is a full time on-call job that wouldn't allow for much in the way of other demanding positions.


--- Quote from: Lost Merlin on April 26, 2018, 01:30:04 PM ---Are we saying that each SC seat has its own power boost.  Or are we saying that each SC wizard may have their own things?

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I think there's a WoJ that the Senior Council title doesn't come with a power boost.  You have to have the power yourself, via blood or bargain, to even be realistically considered.

But I like the idea of seven roles of the original Merlin being divvied up to seven others on the Council, with the original intention of it being the seven Seniors, but over time it became less structured.

How I'd imagine it:
MERLIN [title]: Leader of the Council, with no power bonus, but plenty of authority.  Langtry
ANCIENT [mantle]: Living repository of magical knowledge passed down only a couple times due to the bearers' extended lifespan.  Mai
GATEKEEPER [object of power]: Eye-bearer in charge of the Gates.  Rashid
WARDEN [mantle]: Authority over the Well.  Also in charge of punishment for law-breakers.  None, then Harry
BLACKSTAFF [object of power]: Bearer of Mother Winter's staff, Council assassin.  McCoy
WAR LEADER [title]: In charge of the Council's war efforts.  Petrovich, then Luccio, then Morgan.
CAPTAIN [title]: Captain of the Council's police force.  Perhaps run by the WARDEN at some point, leading to an overlap in name convention.  Luccio.

I imagine the structure would have been cleaner and more divided originally, but over a thousand years of politics an imperfect choices lead to changes.

Quantus:

--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on April 26, 2018, 08:46:59 PM ---Perhaps.  But I'd imagine they all have only so much space in their buckets.  Harry's a warden, the Warden, and the Winter Knight.  Rashid is a Senior Council Member and the Gatekeeper.      The latter is a full time on-call job that wouldn't allow for much in the way of other demanding positions.
I think there's a WoJ that the Senior Council title doesn't come with a power boost.  You have to have the power yourself, via blood or bargain, to even be realistically considered.

But I like the idea of seven roles of the original Merlin being divvied up to seven others on the Council, with the original intention of it being the seven Seniors, but over time it became less structured.

How I'd imagine it:
MERLIN [title]: Leader of the Council, with no power bonus, but plenty of authority.  Langtry
ANCIENT [mantle]: Living repository of magical knowledge passed down only a couple times due to the bearers' extended lifespan.  Mai
GATEKEEPER [object of power]: Eye-bearer in charge of the Gates.  Rashid
WARDEN [mantle]: Authority over the Well.  Also in charge of punishment for law-breakers.  None, then Harry
BLACKSTAFF [object of power]: Bearer of Mother Winter's staff, Council assassin.  McCoy
WAR LEADER [title]: In charge of the Council's war efforts.  Petrovich, then Luccio, then Morgan.
CAPTAIN [title]: Captain of the Council's police force.  Perhaps run by the WARDEN at some point, leading to an overlap in name convention.  Luccio.

I imagine the structure would have been cleaner and more divided originally, but over a thousand years of politics an imperfect choices lead to changes.

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I think Id argue that McCoy seems to have taken over Petrovich's War-Leader role more than Luccio or Morgan directly, once he made the SC he seemed to act as the SC leadership for the majority of Wardens.

peregrine:

--- Quote from: Quantus on April 26, 2018, 08:39:46 PM ---Not a rigid one; there is age-based seniority, but for example McCoy was waaay down the list (took them a 1.2 hour of reading to get far enough down the list to reach him). And not only is he on the SC, he's the same age as the current Merlin.

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Yeah, but the reasons we saw were entirely of the "not available" variety, and none were of the "Can't hack it" variety.

Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: Quantus on April 26, 2018, 08:52:44 PM ---I think Id argue that McCoy seems to have taken over Petrovich's War-Leader role more than Luccio or Morgan directly, once he made the SC he seemed to act as the SC leadership for the majority of Wardens.

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I think it was explicitly said at one point that Luccio was in charge of the war effort.  Eb was clearly involved, and took over the brute squad, but I think Luccio was in charge.  I thought there was also a mention of Morgan doing things for Luccio after DB, but I can't recall if that was just the Wardens or not.

But yeah, Eb was neck deep in it.

Griffyn612:
Also, I'm going to find it infinitely amusing if the "Warden" has an official place on the Council, and is supposed to participate in high level decisions and discussions with the Senior Council.

I mean, Eb knew a lot in SK before he joined the SC.  Maybe that was due to being so close to the others, or maybe it was just experience.  Or maybe certain positions carry a secret rank, and Langtry is going to have to work with Harry almost as a peer.

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