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groinkick:
Just a thought but I'm wondering if Anduriel's end game plan is for Dresden to take up his Coin, and use their combined angelic, wizard, and starborn power to let in Outsiders, and control them to create a new universe where the Fallen are in charge.

WereElephant:
Seems kind of unlikely, given that Anduriel has been playing a really long game with Nicodemus. That being said, it would be interesting to see Nicodemus have to work for Anduriel's favor again after a failure.

I really don't see Dresden picking up another Coin ever, however. Apart from him being the only person ever known to have thrown off the sway of Lasciel, I suspect the WK Mantle might prevent him from becoming a host to a Fallen. Anduriel is no idiot. For him to suddenly change his desired host from Nicodemus, a cooperative vassal of 2 millennia, to an upstart wizard with an incredibly brief period of complete opposition to his goals, there would need to be incredibly good, rock solid reasons to believe Dresden would cooperate. Not saying those reasons don't exist, but I have no idea what they would be.

Yuillegan:
Personally, I think Anduriel has a very complex end game. But I do not believe he wants the Outsiders in. I think for certain he has convinced Nicodemus that he is saving the world, perhaps from Outsiders but also from Free Will. But I am not so sure that Nicodemus is aligned with Anduriel's end game. I believe he still is being manipulated. But judging from Nicodemus' action around finding out about the traitor denarians - I think he isn't part of the Circle. I think the Circle wish for unlimited power which they believe the return of the Outsiders and the Old Ones will bring. Which is probably wrong, as I think the Outsiders and Old Ones wish for Creation to return to the Nothing from which it was made. It is too loud and bright and noisy.

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: Yuillegan on April 10, 2018, 12:38:31 AM ---Which is probably wrong, as I think the Outsiders and Old Ones wish for Creation to return to the Nothing from which it was made. It is too loud and bright and noisy.

--- End quote ---

Relatable old guy Cthulhu just wants those annoying teenagers with their shitty music to get off his lawn.

raidem:
I think Nemesis would really want to infect Nicodemus.  Would Anduriel know if Nicodemus was infected by Nemesis?

It does seem like it is out of character for angels, even fallen angels per WOJ on Lucifer not being a threat to the Universe to plan with Outsiders.  So, it really does seem like Anduriel's reacton to finding out that Hellfire was used at Arctis Tor was an honest reaction.  It seems Angels AREN'T suppose to work in any way to risk Outsider win in the Universe.  An Angel, even Denarian, using Hellfire in their assault on Arctis Tor and subsequently Mab who protects Reality from Outsiders would qualify as something Angels just do not do.  Now, the twist though is that the Denarian may be able to get around the prohibition by free will vs fallen angel.  I'm sure the Angel wouldn't appreciate that though.  It likely is against it's will even.  It could be a case in which that Denarian is infected with Nemesis and that power is able to overcome Fallen Angels influence via Coin.

I'm wondering if Nic suspected some of the Denarians of this and therefore allowed circumstances to exist in which he would benefit from the Denarian getting axed.

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