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Mr Sunshine has wiped out universes before. - WOJ
raidem:
I don't think DF God qualifies as TWG anymore or does he. I'm thinking we should just consider df God as separate from much expectation we have about what God should be like. The differences between df God and God is mounting.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: peregrine on April 08, 2018, 12:27:29 PM ---The fact that I can drive a car down the road with several hundred pounds of stuff at 60 miles per hour does not mean that I can carry several hundred pounds of stuff down the road at 60 miles per hour. Having the ability to let someone else do a thing does not mean you yourself have the ability to do that thing.
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Doesn't it, though? If we said power only lies with the person that does something, then the PotUS is no more powerful than anyone else. He/She would be weaker than many. The fact that they can destroy the world doesn't count, because the themselves aren't doing it.
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on April 08, 2018, 01:46:56 PM ---Besides which, having your universe destroyed his way is probably a mercy kill compared to actually experiencing an Outsider invasion first-hand.
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Definitely. I'm sure they could do a Rapture-level event across the globe in a non-linear second, coordinating with other pantheons if needed.
raidem:
I wonder if the series is kinda what it looks like right before an archangel blows up a universe. I mean we are seeing many archangels getting personally involved. I think they believe there are pivotal moments upcoming and this is there play to limit the need to destroy this universe.
It makes me wonder if Uriels gambit in skin game with turning over his grace to Michael in an attempt to save a soul plus extra may have been part of this plan to save the universe. Uriel put himself on the line with extending his grace to Michael.
Avernite:
--- Quote from: raidem on April 08, 2018, 03:40:08 PM ---I wonder if the series is kinda what it looks like right before an archangel blows up a universe. I mean we are seeing many archangels getting personally involved. I think they believe there are pivotal moments upcoming and this is there play to limit the need to destroy this universe.
It makes me wonder if Uriels gambit in skin game with turning over his grace to Michael in an attempt to save a soul plus extra may have been part of this plan to save the universe. Uriel put himself on the line with extending his grace to Michael.
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I'm sure he did use his Intellectus to limit the risk - I imagine he knew to ask the questions "Will Michael C make me Fall?" and "Will this help?".
Which is a bit weird to consider - what role did Uriel's Intellectus play?
But indeed, I think the BAT will be one of those (apocalyptic) situations deciding if the world gets recycled or keeps on spinning.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on April 08, 2018, 02:58:22 PM ---Doesn't it, though? If we said power only lies with the person that does something, then the PotUS is no more powerful than anyone else. He/She would be weaker than many. The fact that they can destroy the world doesn't count, because the themselves aren't doing it.
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Which has more power. The president ordering a nuclear strike, or someone who can manipulate the laws of physics with their mind to cause a nuclear explosion? The one who can manipulate the laws of physics with their mind can do much much more vs someone using a nuke.
They aren't the same. The Mothers "allowing" the Outsiders to come in vs TWG creating the rules in which it is possible for them to come in is much different. The power to destroy a universe with your own power vs destroying the universe by allowing creatures capable of destroying it in are completely different levels of power.
It means one level of power is much more limited, and contained vs one that can do much more. One follows the rules, and one creates them.
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