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Is Mac God?
raidem:
I think you guys are making copyright infringement too easy to do with respect to literary works. And no one said "it's a rip off of protected works," Jonas.
peregrine:
--- Quote from: raidem on April 19, 2018, 12:34:39 AM ---I think you guys are making copyright infringement too easy to do with respect to literary works. And no one said "it's a rip off of protected works," Jonas.
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What do you think "The whole of the Dresden Files is spun off of the second Pattern Corwin drew" is?
raidem:
That isn't copyright infringement, and it is equally valid to say that DF is it's own multiverse but since Jim drew inspiration from Amber and the Author's death left the Corwin multiverse untouched I like to think Jim has thought about it a time or two. Are you saying he has not once thought about Corwin's multiverse? He plays/played AmberMush where that multiverse has significant importance. And Jim has already stated he has borrowed traveling in the NeverNever from Amber's traveling in the multiverse. I also find it highly likely since he has played AmberMush that he has read Amber Chronicles which once again exposed him to Corwin's untouched multiverse.
--- Quote ---"The whole of the Dresden Files is spun off of the second Pattern Corwin drew
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I also didn't say that. I said one could fit the DF multiverse as being the untouched multiverse mentioned in Amber but there is so much more to the Dresden Files that isn't part of Amber. Jim likes to describe his Dresdenverse as being large enough to fit Star Wars, Star Trek, Xmen, Etc. Yet you guys can't seem to understand that there was an author, Roger Zelazny, who set up his multiverse like this prior to Jim. In Amber, a Amberite could travel to anything they could imagine, so if they can imagine a Dresdenverse they would be able to visit it. According to Jim, Star Wars can exist in the Dresdenverse without copyright infringement, likewise I say Dresdenverse can be said to exist in Amberverse without copyright infringement. These are aspects of a HUGE multiverse where you don't have to write them, they already exist as written. You just make the suggestion that they are included or reacheable in your multiverse and let the fans imagination fill in the blanks.
I'm seeing that your arguments are essentially boiling down to badly misrepresenting what I've said. You are putting words in my mouth, that I didn't say to cast me in a negative like. And, you haven't read Amber series so you most likely don't know what you are talking about with regard to Amber and its potential influences on Jim. And Fred, Iago, has basically stated that Jim has been influenced by Amber; he even sees some Amber influences in some of the white court vampires. Jim also admitted to being influenced by Amber and having played AmberMUSH.
peregrine:
I haven't read the Amber series? Then which ten books did I literally just finish reading a few days ago?
Yes. Jim was influenced by Amber. Just as he was influenced by the Zerg. That doesn't make them the exact same thing. There's a difference between "in a theoretically infinite multiverse anything is possible" and "The actual characters are hanging around, and Mac is Corwin." YOU, no I, were the one who tried to spin this into being based on the second Pattern. That's a bit more than an expansive multiverse, you're bringing in very specific aspects of the other story.
raidem:
--- Quote ---I haven't read the Amber series? Then which ten books did I literally just finish reading a few days ago?
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And the majority of you or others arguments have been from time periods in which you haven't read the books so the jist of the statement stands with the exception for most recent reading.
I stand by my Wag's, that Mac and Dresdenverse is inspired by Corwin and Corwin's untouched Pattern.
Again, Jim CHOSE to include a nod to Corwin by choosing "Corwin, Nevada" and having it a destination in a traveling trip through the nevernever which Jim has admitted to borrowing from Amber in which Corwin is the main protagonist. So, we already know Corwin's name is in play. Maggie Sr. traveled to Corwin, Nevada. She recorded the travel on the gem given to Harry. The Reds made their wharehouse near Corwin, Nevada.
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