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Nick and the Cup (New Theory?)

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Mira:


   There is an old Chinese saying, "Be careful for what you wish for.  YOU MAY GET IT!"   I think that is what is going to
happen to Nick.. Notice that neither Michael nor more importantly Uriel were all that upset that Nick ended up with the Grail...

spiritofair:
I think that Christ's resurrection was the passing of the mantle of the White God from the Old Testament God to the current White God. 

Perhaps Nick wants to force the passing of the mantle to himself.  Talk about ambitious...

Griffyn612:
I still like the old theory that he wanted to summon the Antichrist using the five relics.  It fits with his previous use of turning a good item into something bad.

raidem:
Raisins,

If you read the excerpt of the planning between Harry and Kringle you would know Nic's true aim wasn't what Nic would say it was.  Harry and we, at least me, should know this.  Therefore, Nic's primary objective wasn't the Grail but something extra that went unnamed.  And, It likely was the knife.


--- Quote ---“First,” I said, “Nicodemus is after something powerful. I don’t know what it is, but I do know that if I can get him to tell us what he’s after, it’s going to be a lie. He’d never let anyone know his true goal if he could help it.” “I concur,” Kringle said.
--- End quote ---

Now, after you read this above, can you reread what I posted, it might make more sense after being reminded of this conversation and that the Grail wasn't Nic's true aim.

I think his main purpose in getting into Hades vault was to get the Knife.  He must have believed Harry had the remaining object(s) of power on him as he didn't think Anna had them on her.  It is likely he didn't know how many objects there were.  He did know though that Harry had a 'knife' up his sleeve.  (The metal had clinked on something Harry carried and Nic noticed the noise/vibration etc.)

The last time I recall him have a Cup like object resembling the Holy Grail was in Death Masks when Nic and Deidre had Harry imprisoned and Nic decided to bleed him to death.  He didn't have the necessary cup so he had to delay but was interrupted by Shiro before he got it.  So I'm thinking Nic intends to bleed someone then into the cup then use their blood...

raidem:

--- Quote ---I still like the old theory that he wanted to summon the Antichrist using the five relics.  It fits with his previous use of turning a good item into something bad.
--- End quote ---
It really is a horrible idea. It's a great way to ostracize a great many of fans dabbling with the Antichrist in his fiction.  Now, if you wanted it to summon the devil.  That would be good, but leave Christ/AntiChrist out of it.

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