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Nick and the Cup (New Theory?)
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: raidem on March 12, 2018, 11:11:50 PM ---It really is a horrible idea. It's a great way to ostracize a great many of fans dabbling with the Antichrist in his fiction. Now, if you wanted it to summon the devil. That would be good, but leave Christ/AntiChrist out of it.
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???
Whatchu talkin' bout, Willis?
Mira:
--- Quote from: raidem on March 12, 2018, 11:02:49 PM ---Raisins,
If you read the excerpt of the planning between Harry and Kringle you would know Nic's true aim wasn't what Nic would say it was. Harry and we, at least me, should know this. Therefore, Nic's primary objective wasn't the Grail but something extra that went unnamed. And, It likely was the knife.
Now, after you read this above, can you reread what I posted, it might make more sense after being reminded of this conversation and that the Grail wasn't Nic's true aim.
I think his main purpose in getting into Hades vault was to get the Knife. He must have believed Harry had the remaining object(s) of power on him as he didn't think Anna had them on her. It is likely he didn't know how many objects there were. He did know though that Harry had a 'knife' up his sleeve. (The metal had clinked on something Harry carried and Nic noticed the noise/vibration etc.)
The last time I recall him have a Cup like object resembling the Holy Grail was in Death Masks when Nic and Deidre had Harry imprisoned and Nic decided to bleed him to death. He didn't have the necessary cup so he had to delay but was interrupted by Shiro before he got it. So I'm thinking Nic intends to bleed someone then into the cup then use their blood...
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I agree with this, but it all backfired when he got what he said he wanted, the Grail.. I repeat that neither Michael nor Uriel were that upset about that fact, which is significant in my opinion..
Rasins:
--- Quote from: raidem on March 12, 2018, 11:02:49 PM ---Raisins,
If you read the excerpt of the planning between Harry and Kringle you would know Nic's true aim wasn't what Nic would say it was. Harry and we, at least me, should know this. Therefore, Nic's primary objective wasn't the Grail but something extra that went unnamed. And, It likely was the knife.
Now, after you read this above, can you reread what I posted, it might make more sense after being reminded of this conversation and that the Grail wasn't Nic's true aim.
I think his main purpose in getting into Hades vault was to get the Knife. He must have believed Harry had the remaining object(s) of power on him as he didn't think Anna had them on her. It is likely he didn't know how many objects there were. He did know though that Harry had a 'knife' up his sleeve. (The metal had clinked on something Harry carried and Nic noticed the noise/vibration etc.)
The last time I recall him have a Cup like object resembling the Holy Grail was in Death Masks when Nic and Deidre had Harry imprisoned and Nic decided to bleed him to death. He didn't have the necessary cup so he had to delay but was interrupted by Shiro before he got it. So I'm thinking Nic intends to bleed someone then into the cup then use their blood...
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Oh, no, I got it. I'm just postulating on what he might have wanted the items for. We know the Grail wasn't his primary goal, just his stated one.
But the other thing I'm thinking about is what powers the items bestow on the bearer and how he could or would use them.
jonas:
--- Quote from: raidem on March 12, 2018, 11:11:50 PM ---It really is a horrible idea. It's a great way to ostracize a great many of fans dabbling with the Antichrist in his fiction. Now, if you wanted it to summon the devil. That would be good, but leave Christ/AntiChrist out of it.
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I guess he better stop quoting Yeat's the second coming and making it an integral part of the story then lol? (or making these 'peace' talks 7 years before the end of the Bat, with it's kickoff 3.5 years in)
raidem:
Hey. Let him go there with the Christ/AntiChrist and see if I buy any more of his books. There are other ways to get the books rather than buy them.
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