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Lost Merlin:

--- Quote from: Kindler on March 09, 2018, 02:48:55 PM ---Very fair point, and certainly possible. In terms of personal power, I'd say the Queens are equals, as are the Ladies (generally speaking). There very well may be a power difference between the Mothers, however.

I'd say that when you reach the scale of the Mothers, the difference in relative power, however vast from our tiny human perspective, is probably not all that much.

Point of order, however: my understanding of the WoJ on Toot-Toot is that his size and power increases as Harry's does, not so much that he has more followers.

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If the power differential is in the mothers then mother winter is by far much stronger then mother summer, but maybe due to her missing walking stick is less able to use her power?

also jim frequently uses the term 'influence' to describe fairy power.  I would imagine having more subordinates and controlling the defense of reality is a lot of influence. 

YoungestGruff:
Somebody loop me in: Where is it said that there was a previous Mother Summer?

Lost Merlin:

--- Quote ---1. the mothers - how does a queen become a mother? like after a thousand yrs, old winter dies and mab becomes the new mother?
Essentially abdication.  The previous mother wearies of her duty and moves along.  There's been one new Mother Summer during recorded human history.  Mother Winter has never retired.
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-WoJ

Katarn:

--- Quote from: groinkick on March 09, 2018, 02:52:49 AM ---Although not certain wouldn't the current Mother Summer be one of the previous Summer Queens?

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Most likely yes, but there wasn't any explicit confirmation I was aware of.  We've seen the Ladies have their mantle passed to someone outside of the court (ie Molly), so hypothetically that could happen higher up as well.  Unless, we assume the Queens and Mothers have an automatic upgrade of the Fae the next rung down the ladder to their position.  (For example, we could assume that if Mother Winter dies, Mab automatically becomes Mother Winter, instead of the nearest vessel getting the mantle, as with the Ladies).

Quantus:

--- Quote from: Katarn on March 10, 2018, 03:16:01 PM ---Most likely yes, but there wasn't any explicit confirmation I was aware of.  We've seen the Ladies have their mantle passed to someone outside of the court (ie Molly), so hypothetically that could happen higher up as well.  Unless, we assume the Queens and Mothers have an automatic upgrade of the Fae the next rung down the ladder to their position.  (For example, we could assume that if Mother Winter dies, Mab automatically becomes Mother Winter, instead of the nearest vessel getting the mantle, as with the Ladies).

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They do have an automatic upgrade, at least that was very much how Mab described it while Harry had a gun to her head on Demonreach that time.  The only doubt Ive heard regarding the current  Mother Summer is that there are some WOJ's that can be made to imply that /both/ queens were killed around the whole Hasting's shakeup, and that it could be possible that the Current Mother Summer might have skipped the Queen Stage and gone directly from Lady (or even pre-Lady Candidate) directly to Mother, if enough Death were to happen all at once. 

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