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Faerie Queens Full(?) List
Rasins:
The previous Mother Summer (by implication) wasn't killed, she abdicated ...
--- Quote from: http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,11033.msg494010.html#msg494010 ---1. the mothers - how does a queen become a mother? like after a thousand yrs, old winter dies and mab becomes the new mother?
Essentially abdication. The previous mother wearies of her duty and moves along. There's been one new Mother Summer during recorded human history. Mother Winter has never retired.
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raidem:
Yep. One of my wags have Mrs spunklecrief as the retired mother summer.
Rasins:
THAT would be AWESOME!!
jonas:
--- Quote from: raidem on March 09, 2018, 11:41:59 AM ---From what I gathered there were six souls that took the Queen mantles to include Mother Winter. So, I do believe even she was mortal once.
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That's gather from what exactly? Everything we have on MW implies she was never human.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Rasins on March 22, 2018, 04:54:01 PM ---The previous Mother Summer (by implication) wasn't killed, she abdicated ...
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Right. The theory isnt that the previous Mother Summer was killed, it's that she abdicated right around the same time (or because of the same event) as something that killed the previous Summer Queen, such that the Current Mother Winter jumped straight from Lady to Mother and never held the Queen position in any practical sense.
I honestly dont entirely understand the forces that drove people to go for this particular theory, other than trying to untangle the genetics of the Court's royal family, since Mab and Titania are genetic twins. There's been at least two generations between Titania and the original Mother Summer, so there'd presumably be at least one unaccounted for Winter Queen (ie the current Mother Summer's contemporary). And the other WOJ about their family (below) says that there was a time where " the Winter Queens died" just before Mab took the throne, but the context of the WOJ makes it seem like he meant to say both Queens as in the Summer Queen and Winter Queen, as opposed to the plural "Winter Queens" meaning the Queen and the Lady of Winter (which would mean that Mab went straight from non-mantled/non-royalty directly to Winter Queen without having first served as Winter Lady).
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I was wondering if Mab was the first Winter Queen?
No. Mab was not the first Mab. Mab was originally Winter Lady, and Lea was her Jenny Greenteeth. She was her sidekick and handmaiden. And so when Mab got promoted Lea did too. So she got to be much more powerful and awesome. But that was a while back. When that happened. And the same thing with Titania. The Winter Queens actually died. The last time things got awful in the wizard world. So things are about to get awful in the wizard world again and they're a bit nervous. They're a bit nervous about Dresden. Well, Titania is very nervous about Dresden. Mab is keeping her enemies close.)
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