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The Watchers
raidem:
Mac being a watcher is having a profession or role where his life really isn't in jeopardy even on Halloween. Subsurface would have just attempted to kill him then and there instead of just getting to Harry. I mean Mac could have been named many times but he wasn't so I think it, to sharkface point of view, a pointless action right now.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on February 10, 2018, 09:22:00 PM ---I rather doubt getting one's bar listed as Accorded Neutral Ground is consistent with the level of secrecy the government spooks try to maintain.
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Didn't Mac say somewhere that he was simply "out"? Whatever it was he did in the past, he appears to have stepped down, and isn't picking sides.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on February 10, 2018, 09:27:32 PM ---The only threat the Watchers/Librarians would pose would be if they had Names.
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That rather depends who they're intending to threaten. Mantled immortals, sure, they're pretty well out of the reach of any government. But given that the feds are well aware of Harry and have been keeping an eye on him for a while, surveillance likely would have noticed Carlos, Eb, Thomas, and most of the other domestic known associates. If they're sharp, they've probably worked backward from Thomas to figure the Raith family are something more than just very very rich, and Lara's influence campaign among non-clued federal agencies is probably scaring the hell out of them. Should they decide to test how tough a warden or a whampire really is, a car bomb or a sniper's bullet is just as dangerous coming from Special Collections as from Kincaid or Marcone.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on February 11, 2018, 02:58:43 PM ---That rather depends who they're intending to threaten. Mantled immortals, sure, they're pretty well out of the reach of any government. But given that the feds are well aware of Harry and have been keeping an eye on him for a while, surveillance likely would have noticed Carlos, Eb, Thomas, and most of the other domestic known associates. If they're sharp, they've probably worked backward from Thomas to figure the Raith family are something more than just very very rich, and Lara's influence campaign among non-clued federal agencies is probably scaring the hell out of them. Should they decide to test how tough a warden or a whampire really is, a car bomb or a sniper's bullet is just as dangerous coming from Special Collections as from Kincaid or Marcone.
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And the moment they do, and they're discovered, they'll have nothing to protect themselves. A squad of Ramps ram wild in an FBI building. A coordinated assault by and of the supernatural factions would be much worse.
And given that they're all interested in knowing about everything, and have resources mortals can only dream about, they'd probably eliminated shortly after such orders were given.
Basically, I expect official monitoring of the supernatural to go as unnoticed and well as Carver's surveillance of Harry.
peregrine:
Yeah, but there's a reason Harry calls bringing mortals into the fight as a "nuclear option." For one thing, mortals have the literal nuclear option. Or at a lesser extent, the carpet bombing option. How well would things have gone for most of the Red Court if Harry had opened up his fight with a flight of bombers dropping white phosphorus all over the area?
If the various supernatural forces out there thought they could win a head on war with mortals, they wouldn't be hiding but ruling.
I mean, sure they took out an FBI Building. But the vast majority of the people there were admin and investigators. The heaviest thing in the arsenal might have been a rifle, and probably was a pistol. Try that against a base prepared for such an attack, and things will go differently. And even if they do manage to take it out, there's the vast difference in numbers. Humanity can afford to lose 10-1 to take out the Rampires or whatever.
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