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Disproof
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Rasins on January 16, 2018, 06:35:49 PM ---I'm pretty sure Harry describes Cowl's magic as Mortal.
Also, when Harry mentions to Kumori that Cowl would have Harry's death curse to contend with, she replies that He's dealt with death curses before. I'm thinking at Archangel, some of his folks there realized he was responsible and threw their curses at him. Thus requiring him to wear the Cowl, and it would explain how he was so strong and out of Harry's league.
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But then he was still alive. You see in the original timeline simon did survive, the vampire attack failed and the outsiders could not get through that is why Cowl, who at that time was totally taken over by his outsider and was going to die, traveled to the past to kill Simon and blow things up.
jonas:
--- Quote from: Arjan on January 16, 2018, 07:39:21 PM ---But then he was still alive. You see in the original timeline simon did survive, the vampire attack failed and the outsiders could not get through that is why Cowl, who at that time was totally taken over by his outsider and was going to die, traveled to the past to kill Simon and blow things up.
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Mwwaahahahaha! You forget plenty of necessarily mortal Practitioners who have inhuman aura's and what not. His reference to 'mortal magic' there was technically a distinction towards the other necromancers, whom we know to be 'human' but obviously do not use human magic. Technically, he could be an immortal possessing of Mortal Magic or some such.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: jonas on January 16, 2018, 09:50:22 PM ---Mwwaahahahaha! You forget plenty of necessarily mortal Practitioners who have inhuman aura's and what not. His reference to 'mortal magic' there was technically a distinction towards the other necromancers, whom we know to be 'human' but obviously do not use human magic. Technically, he could be an immortal possessing of Mortal Magic or some such.
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Cowl, just like Harry, could probably use both. Until he died that is. His corpse used outsider magic.
jonas:
--- Quote from: Arjan on January 17, 2018, 05:46:19 AM ---Cowl, just like Harry, could probably use both. Until he died that is. His corpse used outsider magic.
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I disagree entirely.
For the TT theory I have here Kumori revived him to his current state the same way she did to the thug in the Alley. In a very circular way it's were she learned to do that trick.
I think in Undeath he can use both as well, just because of who he is/what he believes.
But more specifically i'd say his is different because even while Harnessing the Black he holds on to it through his belief in regular magic as it is. Harry iirc even makes a parallel between the feel of his own tainted with dark magic. Human Magic, like humanity itself should be just as 'alloyed' in it's make up, though the threat of going bonkers and being replaced by something inhuman marginalizes that fact.
raidem:
This has been copied from the Queen Succession Rules thread. It is about an exception with the Knight being allowed to have sex and potentially conceive a child with the Lady bypassing the defense mechanism. The Lady mantle, having reviewed the exact words Mab has stated regarding when the mantle would destroy itself, is incompatible with being a 'mother.' This incompatibility equates with its destruction. And therefore the destruction of the mantle hinges upon the definition of mother most likely being "a woman who gives birth. The following comments followed.
--- Quote from: raidem on January 17, 2018, 07:16:37 PM ---Alright, this is taking me down a similar line of thinking. I'll probably copy this over to another thread as it applies there also.
Let's postulate that the WK can have sex with the Lady bypassing the defenses. And, that the Lady won't become Queen until she gives birth. And that if she gives birth, thereby becoming a mother, while wielding the Lady mantle, she will have destroyed that mantle absent the Queen mantle.
Now, i'm going to borrow some of your argument regarding the exception the Knight poses. For my purposes with regard to the Murphy/Mab theory coupled with Murphy pregnant with Marcone Wag, I'd venture that WK Harry having impregnated Murphy prior to her TT will 1) provide a beacon for the Lady mantle, 2) bypass defense restriction within Lady mantle thereby allowing Murphy to attract the Lady mantle while being pregnant.
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