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raidem:
Well, there are natural everyday occurrences it seems of 'one choice' at just the right or wrong moment causing splits in realities that is Jim's mortal free will creating reality. I see what you mean though with it being combined with time travel to change history. The big events would be something like where one goes back in time to kill your grandfather and succeeding whereby you actually cause a twinned universe to exist whereby you never occurred. That would be a huge change resulting from a time travel event. I'm sure there would be other instances more significant than that where a twinned universe would spawn so there is HUGE potential for time travel to cause DRAMATIC changes but in spinning off a new 'twinned' universe.
raidem:
Ok, I was thinking about my side theories like Marcone being descended from Murphy and Harry, or the other wag that Harry's fAther is either nicodemus redeemed/reborn or descended from him.
So, I was wondering about the temporal complications of having a child participate and influence events in their parents lives but with some time travel origin in his backstory. I realize it's a wag that doesn't have much of a following nor many merits, but for the sake of discussion and the fact we have no new book to talk about for another year would there be timeline restrictions placed on some of these interactions. Would the universe simply enforce these restrictions via inertia.
How would you go about writing a story where marcone descends from Murphy and Harry but within the context of this book and the rules that have been set forth so far.
You may make use of time travel, alternate reality, mantles, paradox, nevernever, ...
And/Or then proceed to disprove marcone descends from Harry and Murphy using the book. I'll try to see if there are holes that need to be plugged or just abandoned.
Likewise, try to create or think of a story where a redeemed nicodemus gets a second chance similar to Harry because the other side cheated and big gets a different body with a second chance at life as one Malcolm dresden. You can use time travel, alternate realities, second chances, balancing of scales, you are a soul you have a body, ...
Then proceed to disprove the theory with text.
Rasins:
--- Quote from: Arjan on January 13, 2018, 05:22:27 AM ---His outsider animated corpse or a future cowl who traveled to the past to die as simon?
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I'm pretty sure Harry describes Cowl's magic as Mortal.
Also, when Harry mentions to Kumori that Cowl would have Harry's death curse to contend with, she replies that He's dealt with death curses before. I'm thinking at Archangel, some of his folks there realized he was responsible and threw their curses at him. Thus requiring him to wear the Cowl, and it would explain how he was so strong and out of Harry's league.
raidem:
I think the main reason for the Cowl as Jim has said in WOJ is that you just don't go around giving your identity away that easily. It's part of the wizard toolbox of keeping secrets even though there are people who see through the cowl. You just don't make it easy for everyone to know.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Cozarkian on January 12, 2018, 02:34:11 PM ---I think you are arguing for a subjective timeline, there. Objectively, it would be in the future. Mab would not have lived those stories in her Mab persona yet, which means they are future events of which she has a past memory. Ergo, she would have had past knowledge that she was lying about the future. Also, for the ally portion of the statement, Mab's timeline is irrelevant. She said Harry will never consider her an ally in his heart, which makes Harry's timeline the relevant consideration, and Cold Days and Skin Game were in the future in Harry's timeline.
Now, Mab could have forgotten who she was in her mortal past life, which would make her wrong instead of a liar, but that would require the theory to be at least altered.
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I dont think that would be how it would work. Having the Memory of the event does not make her (Fae-technically) the one who experienced it, especially for a race that can steal memories from you as a form of payment. By Fae logic, "Mab" is not "Murphy", even if by some series of events Murphy were to become the host of the Queen Mantle. This is teh same as how Vadderung and Kringle are entirely different beings that happen to reside in the same body. So even if, subjectively, Mab knows that there is a transition in Murphy's future that make her the host of the Winter Queen mantle, there is no point in time where The Winter Queen is an ally of Harry the way Murphy was/is/will be.
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