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Arjan:
--- Quote from: groinkick on January 11, 2018, 06:02:42 AM ---Is magic a requirement to take up that kind of Mantle? I doubt it.
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You must have enough spiritual space for it, woj cited as one of the reasons Harry did not get the lady mantle, no room left for it.
Mark that one of the things Lea did with Molly is letting her handle more and more magic, making room.
Murphy was in clear view of anyone when the Lady mantles were transferred, Maeve did not think she was a suitable candidate either. (otherwise she would have killed her).
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Arjan on January 11, 2018, 12:16:30 PM ---You must have enough spiritual space for it, woj cited as one of the reasons Harry did not get the lady mantle, no room left for it.
Mark that one of the things Lea did with Molly is letting her handle more and more magic, making room.
Murphy was in clear view of anyone when the Lady mantles were transferred, Maeve did not think she was a suitable candidate either. (otherwise she would have killed her).
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Eh, there was never any indication that Lily had magical abilities prior to gaining the mantle, and I want to say there were some references in Cold Case about how a Lady with prior magical training wasnt common (but I could be mixing it with the Knighthood statements to that regard).
raidem:
--- Quote from: groinkick on January 11, 2018, 05:36:39 AM ---One thing that would be funny if TTMurphy was Mab is that Mab was unable to kill Maeve, so she had her past self kill Maeve.
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Yeah, I mentioned that before too. And yes, it would be funny.
See Murphy/Mab Ironies
http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,50304.msg2291717.html#msg2291717
--- Quote ---Karrin’s hands flew out from behind her back in a shower of broken chips of black ice. She tore her little holdout gun from a concealed ankle holster.
“No!” I shouted.
Two shots rang out, almost simultaneously.Something hissed spitefully past my ear.
A neat, round black hole appeared just to the side of Maeve’s nose, at the fine line of her cheekbone.
Maeve blinked twice. Her face fell into what was almost precisely the same expression of confusion Lily’s had. A trickle of blood ran from the hole.
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--- Quote ---Mab moved so quickly that I literally never saw it. The gun was suddenly, simply gone from my hand and was being pushed into my face—in exactly the same spot where Maeve had been shot.
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--- Quote ---“Was it hard for you to kill Maeve?”
Mab did not turn around. When she spoke, her voice had something in it I had never heard there before and never heard again—uncertainty. Vulnerability.
“I was mortal once, you know,” she said, very quietly.
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But, Murphy, a mortal, had killed Maeve.
raidem:
--- Quote ---Murphy has no magic. If that is not enough you really have to sequence their DNA.
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Molly had to be rehabbed because she was too distant from her faerie roots and therefore wasn't an appropriate vessel of faerie. Who is to say Murphy doesn't have faerie roots too and isn't being rehabbed also. We know Murphy is training with Einherjaren whose leader wears a faerie mask whose follower offered Murphy a job with a passing similarity to one of a valkyrie. That isn't even to mention the fact that an archangel spoke through her at Changes where a great many powers were released at a special conjunction of power. Murphy has defeated a great number of faeries in combat, and she did kill a Winter Lady on Halloween.
Lily and many faerie changelings have no magic until they choose faerie and get their mantle. So, Murphy doesn't need magic in order to get a mantle. She just needs to get a mantle and the magic springs from it.
raidem:
--- Quote ---Murphy was in clear view of anyone when the Lady mantles were transferred, Maeve did not think she was a suitable candidate either. (otherwise she would have killed her).
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One thing that stood out to me is that Maeve really never pays much attention to Murphy who is covered in dirt. Jim mentions Maeve having to uncover them before she identifies the person and once she gets to Sarissa she stops there. What is funny is that she mentions that Mab, the Queen of Air and Darkness, would never resort to dirtying herself to bypass the Demonreach's ward all the while with Murphy dirtied up standing right there. In my recollection of the events on Demonreach, Maeve doesn't pay Murphy much attention except that she was grabbed to be used as bait and the generic ice handcuffs that I believe was placed on everyone.
After reviewing the excerpt of Skin Game, it appears that Maeve at least knows the dirtied up figure with "blue eyes reddened," apparently because of the mud, is at least "feisty" something we know has been associated with Murphy many times throughout the books. I don't know for a fact that Maeve knew Murphy was in fact there, but I think it would be fairly safe to assume so but still.
To be fair to Ms. Duck's theory, Molly also stands there unseen dirtied up too.
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