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forumghost:
Bah, spears are easy, they require like, a week of training to use properly. It's one of the reasons that they were so popular a weapon.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: forumghost on January 19, 2018, 03:36:55 AM ---Bah, spears are easy, they require like, a week of training to use properly. It's one of the reasons that they were so popular a weapon.
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so is a sword, or knife, or a gun... Anyone can use them after a week of training but it takes much longer to be an actual expert.... Many different cultures, and martial arts styles use them, and there is a massive difference between a week of training an an actual expert.
RobReece:
--- Quote from: Quantus on January 16, 2018, 07:17:25 PM ---Nope, that was a specific part of the whole scene. It was a pre-built Ward, but it was Lily that turned it on while Maeve distracted Alfred
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Quantus, I read that same quote and I came away with that the ward came up in response to what Lily was doing, not that she called it up. It was the part where Fix said "But"...
Quantus:
--- Quote from: RobReece on January 19, 2018, 03:27:32 PM ---Quantus, I read that same quote and I came away with that the ward came up in response to what Lily was doing, not that she called it up. It was the part where Fix said "But"...
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Hmm. I guess I can see how you could read it that way, but it makes less sense that way to me, if the goal was to try to trick/convince Alfred to activate something they'd have both gone straight to doing that. The fact that they instead had Maeve try to Distract Alfred while lily went and did something else implies that they were specifically trying to do something without his notice, rather than the opposite tactic you describe.
Also, as more general support of the stance, Alfred has made repeated references to how it is the Warden's job to make those choices and activate those sorts of defenses, not "Here's"
RobReece:
--- Quote from: Quantus on January 19, 2018, 04:15:18 PM ---Hmm. I guess I can see how you could read it that way, but it makes less sense that way to me, if the goal was to try to trick/convince Alfred to activate something they'd have both gone straight to doing that. The fact that they instead had Maeve try to Distract Alfred while lily went and did something else implies that they were specifically trying to do something without his notice, rather than the opposite tactic you describe.
Also, as more general support of the stance, Alfred has made repeated references to how it is the Warden's job to make those choices and activate those sorts of defenses, not "Here's"
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I can see your point of view, and after the time that Harry's spent there since that event, I'd agree with Alfred, (by this time, Harry might even be able to have the circle up and still "know" what was happening inside). But I still go with that it was a pre-set response, the Lady's wanted a circle, but I'm sticking with that this circle was a function of the Island, not Lily. I think that Lily was creating a circle, but she hadn't necessarily planned on that circle being the response.
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