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Spoilers: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

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knnn:
See, that's exactly where the movie failed.   

If the Contingency exists in the movie canon, then have some admiral mention doing a resupply run instead of wasting our time essentially preaching the evils of war profiteering.   Unless the purpose of the scene is some kind of lame red herring (lame because of the aforementioned holes in the logic), this is just extra bloat in an already over-long movie.

Same thing with Hux.   If Hux is given loyalty because of who his father was, let someone mention it **onscreen**.  A simple mutter "if it wasn't for the Emperor's faith in your father..." would tighten things up much so better than an extra 15 seconds of infinite mirrors.

raidem:
You are absolutely correct.

The Canon trilogy was hardly referenced at all save for the fact that the remains of the Super Star destroyer and other ships were seen crashed on Jakku.  And, the New Order's rise was hardly, if at all, linked to Palpatine's Contingency orders via Gallius Rax, who died when he personally attempted to overload Jakku's core using Sith artifacts but was killed by his own Grand Admiral Sloane.  Rax last order, while he was dying, was for her to assume command of the mission to the unknown regions to help create this new order.

I didn't learn more of it until after watching the movie and creating this thread.

I could see a cloned palpatine being a possibility in the Contingency now after reading a brief synopsis about the canon trilogy.

Kindler:

--- Quote from: raidem on January 11, 2018, 03:33:14 PM ---I could see a cloned palpatine being a possibility in the Contingency now after reading a brief synopsis about the canon trilogy.

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I'm of two minds about that possibility. One, it would be cool to have a Big Bad that wasn't all talk, but Two, I really, really hope we don't have any clone business with regard to resurrecting dead characters. Have Kylo find the equivalent of the original Sith temple, or have Palpatine as a Force ghost advising him so he's less of a petulant boy.

Also, Knnn, I'm not all that upset with Kylo being in charge of the First Order; you saw how well it worked out for just that limited engagement. I'd kinda like to see what it's like to have an unstable, uber-strong, emotional wreck in charge of a massive war machine. One of the things I always wanted to see was Vader in charge, because I always thought he'd be awful at it. You can't just forcechoke your officers into submission every time they disagree, you know?

raidem:
Well my guesses for the big bad are Cloned Palpatine, Cloned Snoke, or some big bad that I've talked about like Abeloth or one of her manifestations outside of her main self.

lt_murgen:

--- Quote from: raidem on January 10, 2018, 09:17:59 PM ---...Palpatine had planned for Sith artifacts to be dropped in jakku core via mining shaft which would initiate explosion and result in the subsequent destruction of planet and ships in orbit. ....

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I think this is the key to Rey.  A force sensitive child growing up in a sith and death tainted environment.  You could pull at KOTOR 2- Jedi General thing, where she (as a child) cut herself off from the Force.  Her contact with Kylo made a connection back to the force for her. 

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