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Unsolved Mystery Book10 the disappearing coin trick
« on: November 07, 2017, 11:36:24 PM »
Who has thorny's coin?
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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book10 the disappearing coin trick
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2017, 02:10:42 PM »
Marcone said he would look into it. Has he searched and not found it, figured out where it went and is not telling Harry, or does he have it?

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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book10 the disappearing coin trick
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2017, 04:51:03 PM »
I heard a theory that Hendricks picked it up.  That's the reason that Marcone and Hendricks were in Rome, trying to get Hendricks un-possessed.
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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book10 the disappearing coin trick
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2017, 07:54:50 PM »
When do we find out that Marcone and Hendricks were in Rome?

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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book10 the disappearing coin trick
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2017, 08:11:31 PM »
I'm trying to remember for sure, but wasn't it in GS during the meeting at Murphy's house?
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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book10 the disappearing coin trick
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2017, 11:10:18 PM »
I think so, that is when we had Childers representing Marcone's interest.
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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book10 the disappearing coin trick
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2017, 03:13:08 PM »
Well, who's present that's still kicking at the end of the book?

Harry
Eldest Gruff
Sanya
Michael
Marcone
Ivy
Hendricks
Gard
Tessa
Nic
Rosanna
Deirdre
An Army of Worthless Mooks Who Would KILL to Get a Coin for Themselves

Thomas, Molly, and Murphy aren't around.
Nic was on the boat, and seemed genuinely surprised that Harry didn't have the Coins, so I'll rule him out.
Deirdre was a bit busy with the whole murdering Harry thing.
Michael and Sanya just... no.
Ivy was out of it, pretty much unconscious.
Marcone works for Marcone, and I believe him when he says he doesn't know.
Hendricks... I don't think he'd pick up a Coin. A) he's too smart for that, and B) he's too loyal to Marcone for split loyalties with anyone else (except for Gard, because he totally loves her.)
Gard might be interested in it for simple information gathering purposes, but I'm not sure she's really capable of doing something that might compromise her loyalty to Vaderrung.
Harry doesn't remember picking it up if he did it at all.


That leaves Tessa, Rosanna, Eldest Gruff, and an Army of Mooks Who Would Kill to Get Their Hands on a Coin.

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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book10 the disappearing coin trick
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2017, 03:37:13 PM »
If memory serves, Michael was in Harry's view from the time he put the coin into his pouch until the helicopter flew away. That eliminates Tessa and Rossana unless the helicopter landed on another part of the island before going back to the mainland. Same with the Army of Mooks (even less of a chance since they are vanilla mortal). Eldest Gruff may have the power to do it, but we do not officially see or hear him until after the helicopter has left. My money is on Hendricks by mistake or Gard on the orders of Vaderrung.

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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book10 the disappearing coin trick
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2017, 04:07:28 PM »
As much as I like the closed room mystery puzzle, I feel like we can't forget the possibility that someone summoned the coin.
We know it's possible since Lash wanted to show Harry how to do it in the climax of WN before her Heroic Sacrifice™ and it was one of his backup plans if Mab turned him down in Changes.

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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book10 the disappearing coin trick
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2017, 04:12:31 PM »
Gonna go with Hendricks, for the Merlin/Arthur connect... that would likely make him Lancelot, the betrayer...
*OH SH*T, Gard even works as a surrogate Guin, A. She helps him with the magic side of his kingdom, B. they don't boink... C. She does boink 'Lancelot', apparently
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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book10 the disappearing coin trick
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2017, 07:24:26 PM »
I'm sticking with Hendricks.
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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book10 the disappearing coin trick
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2017, 07:27:00 PM »
Assuming a closed room mystery as phil said above, I think the only two options are Hendricks and Gard. I'm going with Gard on orders from Vadderung to secure either a coin or that coin in particular (due to Thorny being in collusion with or infected by Nemesis).

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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book10 the disappearing coin trick
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2017, 07:42:38 PM »
I could see Thorny being in collusion with Nemesis, but not Nemfected.  I realize our WoJ only says Arch-Angels, but I'm betting Angels in general are too unchanging, until they fall that is, to be Nemfected.
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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book10 the disappearing coin trick
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2017, 10:26:21 PM »
have to go along with Kindler on this one. 

The other possibility is that one of them took the coin, without intending to "take" the coin.   I could totally see Marcone acquiring the coin, carefully placing it in some vault and leaving it there without ever letting anyone (including himself) touch the coin with flesh.   It is one of the few ways to harm the denarians as a whole after all - put a coin out of circulation.   

The other possibility not discussed is that some spell (death curse...) triggered to send the coin to some pre-arranged spot. 

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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book10 the disappearing coin trick
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2017, 11:11:43 PM »
Doesn't Thorny eat magic kinda like Papa Raith's protection spell?
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