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Unsolved Mystery Book9 Cowl again
« on: November 07, 2017, 11:34:58 PM »
Why was Cowl working with White Court dissenters?
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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book9 Cowl again
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2017, 12:46:12 AM »
ostensibly to bring someone under his control into control of the White Court, only when they realized that it wasn't going to succeed did they unleash the Uberghouls.

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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book9 Cowl again
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2017, 09:38:00 AM »
I really feel like Elaine was less trying to solve the mystery and more like trying to keep a few friends alive.
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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book9 Cowl again
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2017, 04:28:40 PM »
To upset the balances of power in the supernatural world.
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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book9 Cowl again
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2017, 10:30:30 PM »
He had involvement in starting the Council vs Red Court war. His actions led to elimination of Kemmlerites. He nearly caused an internal war among White Court, I would say that Mavra is opposed to Cowl. And, that is the stuff that is known.
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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book9 Cowl again
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2017, 11:01:37 PM »
He had involvement in starting the Council vs Red Court war. His actions led to elimination of Kemmlerites. He nearly caused an internal war among White Court, I would say that Mavra is opposed to Cowl. And, that is the stuff that is known.
you say that Cowl and Mavra are on opposite sides, but they were both at the Masquerade and seemed comfortable being there... I'm not saying that they are working together, but I don't see them opposed to each other, maybe in competition with each other?

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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book9 Cowl again
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2017, 11:25:16 PM »
I can go with the competition bit.
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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book9 Cowl again
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2017, 02:02:26 AM »
I would say that Mavra is opposed to Cowl.

Specifically out of the three Kemmlerites? I'm still not sure whether her motivation in using Harry against them was to retrieve the book for herself or deny it to any other players. But she must have been using a proxy to avoid being noticed as the one opposing the Darkhallow - she's powerful enough to have killed at least Grevane and Corpsetaker single-handedly, if she'd chosen to move openly.

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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book9 Cowl again
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2017, 10:12:37 AM »
Well, she is undead; so, the Kemmlerites were possible a greater threat to her than many others would be.
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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book9 Cowl again
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2017, 06:20:56 PM »
Well, she is undead; so, the Kemmlerites were possible a greater threat to her than many others would be.

This.

As to them being on opposite sides ... while Cowl was at the party, I don't think he was working toward war.  I think he was working towards an infected member of the Winter court.  So, them being in opposition isn't necessarily the case.

Regarding the Word, Harry said that it contained power over Mavra.  Her wanting it off the market makes sense.  Now if we see her with it again, we can think of other reasons, but she SHOULD have destroyed it immediately if she was keeping it out of others hands.
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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book9 Cowl again
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2017, 11:08:05 PM »
It may be effective in elevating her position within the Black Court. They are like her but without her Kemmler knowledge.
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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book9 Cowl again
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2017, 11:16:01 PM »
I think part of Cowl's long term strategy is to introduce as much strife and dissension in the major powers as possible. Not only does this disrupt organized resistance to his plans, it also allows him to insert his own people in key positions. Causing either a change in the ruler of the White Court or increasing the infighting would serve his purpose.

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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book9 Cowl again
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2017, 11:50:19 PM »
Beat enough hornet's nest and you'll get a swarm.
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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book9 Cowl again
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2017, 02:50:40 PM »
Beat enough hornet's nest and you'll get a swarm.

You know, there is more truth here than just on the surface.

Don't forget that the same swarm can attack you as well as others.
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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book9 Cowl again
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2017, 09:24:29 PM »
The trick is to either beat the nest without being detected by the swarm or by giving the swarm a more visible/appealing target to attack. Cowl is managing to do both pretty well so far.