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Rasins:
I'm still unconvinced that mankind CAN be Nemfected.

I think it would be really easy for a nemfected wizard to summon outsiders, as human wizards are the only ones who can.

Now if Cowl were nemfected, wouldn't it make more sense for him to go around nemfecting other wizards to summon more outsiders?

No, Cowl isn't nemfected.

He IS however working with Nemesis.

Kindler:

--- Quote from: Rasins on November 14, 2017, 06:19:42 PM ---I'm still unconvinced that mankind CAN be Nemfected.

I think it would be really easy for a nemfected wizard to summon outsiders, as human wizards are the only ones who can.

Now if Cowl were nemfected, wouldn't it make more sense for him to go around nemfecting other wizards to summon more outsiders?

No, Cowl isn't nemfected.

He IS however working with Nemesis.

--- End quote ---

I'm not sure why mortals couldn't be infected. Why wouldn't they? I know it fails the logic test that an infected mortal would just call up all the Outsiders they need, but there might be an element to Nemesis infection that makes doing that impossible. Infected wizards may have their magic changed enough that it no longer functions identically to mortal magic. Personally, I believe that summoning Outsiders requires an act of free will, and Nemesis infection supplants or subverts it enough that it no longer works.

Arjan:
I think Nemesis infection is a spiritual infection similar to a denarian shadow. It is a form of possession as shown by Cat Sith when Nemesis took completely over but in that mode it is easily detected. Usually it just sits there influencing the hosts nature and decisions.

It can infect everything and everyone that can have power because it is basically outsider power at least as it expresses itself this side of the gate.

It can even infect a knife so a wizzard should not be a fundamental problem.

Rasins:

--- Quote from: Kindler on November 14, 2017, 06:29:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: Rasins on November 14, 2017, 06:19:42 PM ---I'm still unconvinced that mankind CAN be Nemfected.

I think it would be really easy for a nemfected wizard to summon outsiders, as human wizards are the only ones who can.

Now if Cowl were nemfected, wouldn't it make more sense for him to go around nemfecting other wizards to summon more outsiders?

No, Cowl isn't nemfected.

He IS however working with Nemesis.

--- End quote ---
I'm not sure why mortals couldn't be infected. Why wouldn't they? I know it fails the logic test that an infected mortal would just call up all the Outsiders they need, but there might be an element to Nemesis infection that makes doing that impossible. Infected wizards may have their magic changed enough that it no longer functions identically to mortal magic. Personally, I believe that summoning Outsiders requires an act of free will, and Nemesis infection supplants or subverts it enough that it no longer works.

--- End quote ---

What we've seem to see so far is that Nemfection allows the one infected to go against their nature and do things they could not do before.

Mortals/Mankind already can do that.  We can already go against our natures and do things that we really shouldn't be able to do.

Thus, I don't think it's possible to be nemfected.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Rasins on November 21, 2017, 07:09:48 PM ---I'm not sure why mortals couldn't be infected. Why wouldn't they? I know it fails the logic test that an infected mortal would just call up all the Outsiders they need, but there might be an element to Nemesis infection that makes doing that impossible. Infected wizards may have their magic changed enough that it no longer functions identically to mortal magic. Personally, I believe that summoning Outsiders requires an act of free will, and Nemesis infection supplants or subverts it enough that it no longer works.


What we've seem to see so far is that Nemfection allows the one infected to go against their nature and do things they could not do before.

Mortals/Mankind already can do that.  We can already go against our natures and do things that we really shouldn't be able to do.

Thus, I don't think it's possible to be nemfected.

--- End quote ---
That would only makes an infection more difficult to detect. Humans have nature, power, spirit so until something disproves it I have to assume humans can be infected.

There is no reason to change the human to something else first.

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